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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:26 pm to Red Stick Tigress
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:26 pm to Red Stick Tigress
quote:wait that Baw Yellowfin resides in Lafayette Parish
he's about 5'4"
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:35 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Those questions have been addressed over and over
Not interested in hypotheticals. Has it been addressed in the trial?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:50 pm to TigerFred
Hayes had a gun when he exited the vehicle. That's a fact. Now what's being debated is whether or not hayes exited his hummer with the weapon visible or was it concealed.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:53 pm to phil good
Why does that matter?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:53 pm to diat150
There Is still a female I know that is in town being put up at a title from Atlanta. She moved shortly after the incident and did not like the attention she received AT ALL.
It's weird because she is a witness for the defense but from my perspective you would have thought the ADA would have called her.
I do know that she was first contacted and interviewed by the defense and didn't really pay attention and realize that was who was interviewing her.... she is a female though, so.
It's weird because she is a witness for the defense but from my perspective you would have thought the ADA would have called her.
I do know that she was first contacted and interviewed by the defense and didn't really pay attention and realize that was who was interviewing her.... she is a female though, so.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:54 pm to SuperSaint
The one that took stand after Justin Ross?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:00 pm to Chad504boy
No she is one of Fullers witness
But JR is the guy I had lunch with the other day.
Dude said they had bim sit in a cubical all fricking day waiting to get called those couple of days.
But JR is the guy I had lunch with the other day.
Dude said they had bim sit in a cubical all fricking day waiting to get called those couple of days.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:03 pm to SuperSaint
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There Is still a female I know that is in town being put up at a title from Atlanta. She moved shortly after the incident and did not like the attention she received AT ALL.
It's weird because she is a witness for the defense but from my perspective you would have thought the ADA would have called her.
I do know that she was first contacted and interviewed by the defense and didn't really pay attention and realize that was who was interviewing her.... she is a female though, so.
yeah... the prosecution called a woman who was living in NOLA at the time of the murder who's now living in ATL
was with Ross the night of the murder at the Half Moon
didn't really get a lot from her testimony that I remember
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:06 pm to SuperSaint
Can't read all of this but what side seems to be winning?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:09 pm to tigerskin
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Can't read all of this but what side seems to be winning?
defense's own witness basically destroyed their own evidence tampering claim today
that was interesting
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:09 pm to phil good
It has not been established as fact by the prosecution.
Not one witness that the prosecution called said that they saw Hayes with a gun much less exited his vehicle with a gun.
Racquel Smith testified that she was between the two.
Another witness said that they were hand fighting each other.
If Hayes has a gun at that point it must have been hidden well.
The only thing that we know is there us a 911 tape with Someone saying that they had a gun in the background. It is supposedly Hayes. The prosecution never pushed the issue and the defense never questioned it.
I don't know much about Fuller as an attorney. I do know a little about New Orleans DA's. IMO. The Fa did not present a very strong case but wouldn't say it was a week case. The defense has many openings to attack NOPD credibility, witnesses, and self defense and some rated off with a shite show. Basically the equivalent of showing up to gun fight with a water balloon.
Not one witness that the prosecution called said that they saw Hayes with a gun much less exited his vehicle with a gun.
Racquel Smith testified that she was between the two.
Another witness said that they were hand fighting each other.
If Hayes has a gun at that point it must have been hidden well.
The only thing that we know is there us a 911 tape with Someone saying that they had a gun in the background. It is supposedly Hayes. The prosecution never pushed the issue and the defense never questioned it.
I don't know much about Fuller as an attorney. I do know a little about New Orleans DA's. IMO. The Fa did not present a very strong case but wouldn't say it was a week case. The defense has many openings to attack NOPD credibility, witnesses, and self defense and some rated off with a shite show. Basically the equivalent of showing up to gun fight with a water balloon.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:13 pm to TigerFred
Word!
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:13 pm to TigerFred
you can not say the prosecution hasn't at least proven a manslaughter conviction
Hayes admitted killing Smith and pretty much every claim being put forth for self-defense has been shot down
Hayes admitted killing Smith and pretty much every claim being put forth for self-defense has been shot down
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:17 pm to rt3
No I can't.
The defense has only presented a few witnesses and all were very week. iMO
Of course I am not in the courtroom and gathering most of my information from twitter, other messages, and websites.
The defense has only presented a few witnesses and all were very week. iMO
Of course I am not in the courtroom and gathering most of my information from twitter, other messages, and websites.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:18 pm to rt3
quote:oh shite well I missed that... I was told she was going to be called by Fuller
quote:
There Is still a female I know that is in town being put up at a title from Atlanta. She moved shortly after the incident and did not like the attention she received AT ALL.
It's weird because she is a witness for the defense but from my perspective you would have thought the ADA would have called her.
I do know that she was first contacted and interviewed by the defense and didn't really pay attention and realize that was who was interviewing her.... she is a female though, so.
yeah... the prosecution called a woman who was living in NOLA at the time of the murder who's now living in ATL
was with Ross the night of the murder at the Half Moon
didn't really get a lot from her testimony that I remember
How did she do? Anything pertinent?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:20 pm to TigerFred
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No I can't.
The defense has only presented a few witnesses and all were very week. iMO
Of course I am not in the courtroom and gathering most of my information from twitter, other messages, and websites.
I've seen the same thing you have
Yes the different witnesses all have pieces and parts... but putting it all together with the physical evidence... Hayes had no reason to shoot Will Smith and should be punished as such
ETA: the private investigator... the defense's #1 called witness... basically destroyed the defense's evidence tampering claims
Napoli destroyed that dude
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:24 pm to SuperSaint
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oh shite well I missed that... I was told she was going to be called by Fuller
How did she do? Anything pertinent?
they said she was originally from France
didn't seem to have a whole heck of a lot of information... nothing that really stood out to me that I can recall
I'd have to go back through the tweets of her testimony... that was either Wednesday or yesterday
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:25 pm to rt3
Evidence shows CH didn't get out of the hummer wanting or planning on killing anyone. I think Hayes takes the stand and says WS made him fear for his life and that he had no intentions on shooting anyone until it was escalated. There is no evidence saying that WS didn't escalate it during the heightened ordeal caused by Will's party who were all lacking cognitive ability due to alcohol.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:27 pm to rt3
Yeah she hightailed it to ATL. Didn't like the media attention at all.
JR is originally from NE and came down here to attend Loyola and stayed.
JR is originally from NE and came down here to attend Loyola and stayed.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:30 pm to SuperSaint
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Evidence shows CH didn't get out of the hummer wanting or planning on killing anyone. I think Hayes takes the stand and says WS made him fear for his life and that he had no intentions on shooting anyone until it was escalated. There is no evidence saying that WS didn't escalate it during the heightened ordeal caused by Will's party who were all lacking cognitive ability due to alcohol.
there is a reason that all of the lawyers acting as independent analysts on this say Hayes MUST testify... esp after the PI
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