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Why won't auto manufacturers make it easy to change the oil on a vehicle?

Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:44 pm
Posted by Bootycall
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:44 pm
All they would have to do is make the oil drain spout and filter easily accessible where just about anyone could do it.
Posted by ellunchboxo
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:47 pm to
You answered your own question.
Posted by DownSouthDave
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:47 pm to
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All they would have to do is make the oil drain spout and filter easily accessible where just about anyone could do it.




No shite, thats all?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:47 pm to
Because they want you to bring it to their shop so they can make more money.

Vehicles used to be made so the owner could keep them up. Now it's the opposite, made with plenty of cheap material and not made to last.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:50 pm to
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. Now it's the opposite, made with plenty of cheap material and not made to last.


Vehicles last longer and are more reliable today than they've ever been
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:50 pm to
Most cars are pretty accessible. Usually protected by only a plastic cover. Not like you have to remove headlights of intake manifolds to change the oil. Just have to be able to slide under it.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

Vehicles last longer and are more reliable today than they've ever been


Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:52 pm to
I love the "old vehicles were better" crowd.

Old vehicles sucked arse. No power, no longevity, no comfort, no capability.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:52 pm to
Laugh all you want, it's true
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

the age of the average vehicle on the road at a record-high 10.8 years, according to the research company R.L. Polk in Southfield Mich. By comparison, the average life expectancy of a new car in 1930 was a scant 6.75 years. Fortunately, today’s cars are more than up to the task of going the distance.




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 According to the New York Times, in the 1960s and 1970s, the typical car reached its end of life around 100,000 miles, but due to manufacturing improvements such as tighter tolerances and better anti-corrosion coatings, in the 2000s the typical car lasts closer to 200,000 miles.[
This post was edited on 5/31/15 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98190 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:54 pm to
Hell, on a lot of vehicles it's difficult to even add oil if you're a little low. The filler cap is nearly inaccessible, or it's so recessed you spill half the oil you're trying to pour in.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:55 pm to
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Most cars are pretty accessible.


I don't find that to be necessarily true at all.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:56 pm to
I find new vehicles much easier to work on than old ones. They diagnose themselves and are much more modular.

I have a Volkswagen diesel which should be the epitome of impossible to work on, and oil changes aren't bad at all with the right tools.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:56 pm to
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Until about the early to mid 90s, a car was considered shot at 100k miles (especially American), no matter the make or model.

Cars last much longer than that now. It's nothing to pay 7/8/10 grand for a car with 100k miles.
This post was edited on 5/31/15 at 6:58 pm
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3797 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:57 pm to
Engine oil is typically fairly accessible. It might be covered or routed oddly to keep the appearance of the engine bay, but it's there.

If you change this discussion to transmission oil, I'm with you. Many vehicles require the dealer to check it for you and no longer even include a dipstick. Not to mention no drain plug or anything of the like.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:57 pm to
Ill drive my truck to 100k and still get 30k for it
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 6:58 pm to
Because the manufacturers make more money this way.

Nothing personal, it's just business
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:00 pm to
Packaging and long oil change intervals.

Next question.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:00 pm to
YouTube can show you how to do damn near anything you'd want to do at home on a car. Changing oil is ray in all the cats I've owned, including my wife's Prius.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 5/31/15 at 7:01 pm to
Add that into an overpriced initial cost, and overpriced maintenance..you're paying far too much than what you're getting in return.

Cars are made with fricking plastics, and for fricks sake if a computer goes out in one..and the imports likeMercedes and bmw, not overpriced at all to fix something simple.

Overpriced for cheaper materials, and that's what is true.
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