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Posted on 7/19/14 at 7:49 pm to CunningLinguist
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I would argue Caesar was not remembered fondly
You would be arguing on the losing side of an argument
Posted on 7/19/14 at 7:51 pm to Tiger1242
I don't think Caesar is really held in very high regard, to be honest. He's just really well-known for a figure from antiquity.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 7:53 pm to Tiger1242
If I could overthrow our republic and take command, we would be better off.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:04 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
What would be your reformation goals?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:13 pm to Tiger1242
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You would be arguing on the losing side of an argument
Why? The most famous thing about Julius Caesar is being stabbed in the back. Not his domestic and foreign policies, not his military campaigns, but being stabbed in the back.
I don't think people necessarily sympathize or loathe him in this even, they just know that's what happened to him.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:14 pm to Navytiger74
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I don't think Caesar is really held in very high regard, to be honest. He's just really well-known for a figure from antiquity.
I bet there is a significant percentage of people who would say he's the greatest leader in history
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:17 pm to Tiger1242
Again, my vote is Cincinnatus. Dude was dictator twice and immediately resigned once the threat was over.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:18 pm to Tiger1242
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I bet there is a significant percentage of people who would say he's the greatest leader in history
There's something to that. Several countries used his name as the title for their leader centuries after his death (czar, kaiser, shah).
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:19 pm to HempHead
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Again, my vote is Cincinnatus. Dude was dictator twice and immediately resigned once the threat was over.
That actually happened pretty often in the earlier stages of Rome, Cincinnatus wasn't the first, or the last person to do that, yet he's the only one remembered for it
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:20 pm to CaptainsWafer
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He had a great salad.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:20 pm to Tiger1242
He's not
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:22 pm to Vegas Eddie
You are like the 5th person to come in here with that response, but whether or not you think so, he is looked upon fondly today by the majority of people
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:25 pm to Tiger1242
I don't think that Caesar is all that well regarded. There's a reason Brutus is a pretty sympathetic protagonist to the eternal play "Julius Casear". Caesar isn't positively regarded, he's just regarded as the ultimate ruler, and probably only next to Alexander the Great, he truly is. Not greatest, but ultimate ruler.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:27 pm to Tiger1242
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bet there is a significant percentage of people who would say he's the greatest leader in history
I guess I wouldn't argue with that. I don't think anyone "in the know" would. To the posters who mentioned the Tsars and Kaisers, I think he just represented the power of the greatest ancient European Empire and was something for those aspiring to autocracy to grab ahold to. Caesar was a pretty good (but not GOAT) military commander and he was a patrician who consolidated much of his power by buying the favor of the plebes--which was also ultimately his own undoing.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:27 pm to Tiger1242
All you have done is provide opinion. Since you claim he is looked upon "fondly", prove it.
Being remembered as a great leader doesn't make one popular, Hitler was a great leader for fricks sake
Being remembered as a great leader doesn't make one popular, Hitler was a great leader for fricks sake
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:27 pm to OMLandshark
Alexander the Great is another one, dude's empire lasted for all of like 5 years after he died. His life seems pretty bad arse though, got wasted in conquered cities literally every night and eventually died of some kind of sickness that was most likely alcohol poisoning
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:30 pm to jcole4lsu
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All you have done is provide opinion. Since you claim he is looked upon "fondly", prove it.
Being remembered as a great leader doesn't make one popular
How should I prove it go out and take a fricking Census?
People think of Hitler as a great leader and a terrible person, he is definitely not remembered fondly. People generally seem to remember Caesar strictly as a great leader and nothing else, go back and read RollTides post
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:32 pm to Tiger1242
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How should I prove it go out and take a fricking Census?
Then perhaps you should quit pretending your opinion is written stone fact.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:32 pm to Tiger1242
Bc Gauls and Britons didn't write the history books
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