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re: Why Is it illegal to have a woman sign a contract, stating that she wont get pregnant

Posted on 8/5/17 at 7:32 pm to
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 8/5/17 at 7:32 pm to
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you cant even ask that shite in an interview

But you should be able to ask.

Imagine if a male applicant told you in an interview that he was PLANNING on making some life change that would cause him to have to take it easy for a few months, then take a few weeks off, then need to use more company resources, then add another person onto the company insurance, then not attend anything "extra" with the company for a few months while his home life settles down.

Wouldn't you want to hire the other guy who could tell you that he's not going to do that?


I'll also add, that by not allowing the interviewer/company to ask such questions results in all women of age being assumed to be potential pregnancy-deficits to the company. Therefore, those that are planning on sacrificing that part of their life in order to make it further in the business world are afforded no benefits of such.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108398 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 8:10 pm to
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A lot of loophole lawyers in this thread



Well, that's how lawyers work you moron. If you ask "what's your home life like", what else could be the possible answer that you can't get sued over? Oh I'm a single woman that can't find a man? That's suable. I'm a man with 4 kids looking for a job? That's suable. I'm an Orthodox Jew who attends services as much as possible? That's suable. I'm a guy who just got married to my husband? That's suable.

You're just an idiot that I would without question fire if you ever ask about someone's "home life" in the job interview. You're just fricking moron.
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 8:17 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108398 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 8:15 pm to
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No, just HR/People professionals that are actually trying to help you.



Yeah, I'm not in HR, but I had a double minor in HR and Marketing. I'm just telling him the truth. If someone asked me "what home life is like" and I didn't get the job, then there's a good chance I would sue knowing I would at least get a settlement. Honestly if someone asked me that in a job interview, I would immediately question "why is my home life relevant to this job?"

My passions, which is what you should question that this idiot doesn't understand, are relevant to the job; but what I do outside of the job isn't relevant to the job. He could mention some passions that don't have anything to do with the job, but anyone with any intelligence will at least list one of his passions relevant to the job. If he mentions his relgion off the cuff, then you can defend that question as never wanting to know the religion, rather than his "home life" where that directly comes into the equation. Cubes is fricking moron who will get sued and lose if he keeps this up. He opens himself up to a lawsuit like a retard every time he asks it.
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 8:29 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/5/17 at 8:36 pm to
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Imagine if a male applicant told you in an interview that he was PLANNING on making some life change that would cause him to have to take it easy for a few months, then take a few weeks off, then need to use more company resources, then add another person onto the company insurance, then not attend anything "extra" with the company for a few months while his home life settles down.


You mean like a soon to be single father going through a divorce if he's retaining any kind of custody of his kids?

Posted by islandtiger
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/5/17 at 8:58 pm to
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"So, tell me about your home life?"



I don't know who you work for, but that has never been an acceptible line of questioning for any interview I have been associated with (several dozen over the years). If the candidate brings it up during dinner or when making the rounds during introductions to other team members fine, but never initiated by the hiring panel.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108398 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:07 pm to
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I don't know who you work for, but that has never been an acceptible line of questioning for any interview I have been associated with (several dozen over the years). If the candidate brings it up during dinner or when making the rounds during introductions to other team members fine, but never initiated by the hiring panel.



No way he's a part of a major corporation. At best he'd be given a warning asking that question and more likely he'd be fired on the spot if his superiors knew he asked it. Unless I was very close to him willing to put my own neck on the line, I'd fire Cubes on the spot for such a question. That's at least a 6 figure settlement for asking that.
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2300 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:10 pm to

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If they can do the job hire them. If they get pregnant, find reasons to write them up, then fire them.


Another excellent way to find yourself in a lawsuit. If she's been a good employee all along and your write ups only start when she's pregnant, she's got a pretty good case.
Now if she's always had issues and you have documented them prior to the pregnancy, that's different,
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 9:13 pm
Posted by NoHoTiger
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Member since Nov 2006
45737 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:12 pm to
Just for shits and giggles: why isn't it ok to ask a man not to father any children? It seems as though he's most likely to be adding the kids to his policy. I realize he probably won't be taking paternity leave, but in the long run, benefits and insurance are going to cost the company a metric frick ton more than a few weeks off.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108398 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:14 pm to
Most posters here are retards. I wish I had them in an interview or as my bosses, and I would gladly sue them and win. Most of the posters here are idiots and they should be thankful that most of the people they interview aren't familiar with Title VII.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108398 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:19 pm to
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Just for shits and giggles: why isn't it ok to ask a man not to father any children? It seems as though he's most likely to be adding the kids to his policy. I realize he probably won't be taking paternity leave, but in the long run, benefits and insurance are going to cost the company a metric frick ton more than a few weeks off.



Exactly. A man would be able to sue for that if it was put against him, and would win mind you. It's ridiculous how dumb the average poster on this site is.

But you have idiots like "Cubes" asking about family life, which could vary from number of kids, marriage status, likelihood to have kids, religion, medical status of loved ones, or sexuality. I would almost without question fire Cubes for asking a potential hire such a question. He would have to be on good terms with me not to fire him over that question, and if he asked it again, it would be firing for sure.
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 10:26 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:22 pm to
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The company I work for is very pro-family for men and women. They let me leave early, come in late and take time off for my niece. I can imagine how great it is if I actually had my own kids.


I did that when I supervised a single mom.
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 7:45 am
Posted by ChineseBandit66
Denver, Colorado
Member since Jul 2013
1794 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:50 pm to
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Another excellent way to find yourself in a lawsuit. If she's been a good employee all along and your write ups only start when she's pregnant, she's got a pretty good case.
Now if she's always had issues and you have documented them prior to the pregnancy, that's different,


I've been gone for a few weeks but The OT has gone Beta as fuq. The author of this thread is an excellent troll and I applaud him.

Fuq bitches get money. Translate that however you see fit.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98188 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:55 pm to
Men can get pregnant too, you transphobe
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 10:07 pm to
You realize men can take FMLA when they have a kid too right?
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 11:53 pm to
In Mississippi, the last 3 cases have been settled for $20,000 (Byram restaurant), $20,000 (Batesville hotel), and $25,000 (City of Jackson).
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