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re: Why does it cost so much to fly now?

Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:38 am to
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83560 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:38 am to
I think it's pretty cheap

just checked flight costs from Dallas to Philly and they are $178 round trip

that is cheap as shite
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129003 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:39 am to
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I don't think SW charges $400 to fly anywhere.


Yeah they do.
Posted by CuseTiger
On the road
Member since Jul 2013
8205 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:39 am to
This might only be part of the whole story, but a few weeks ago, the quarterly earnings came out for the airlines. While Delta and American came out big, United posted a huge loss (think it was over $500 million). Since then, United's tried to raise prices obnoxiously high to make up for that loss. Meanwhile, AA and Delta have increased their prices to keep on par with United, but not nearly as high. This is only the case on certain routes, you can still find good deals to various places.

I could be completely wrong, but that's what I think is going on.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64547 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:39 am to
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Why does it cost so much to fly now?


This guy sums it up nicely....

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Ticket prices are high today for a number of reasons. For starters, the industry has consolidated a lot over the last few years. Less competition means less need for cheaper prices. Thanks to bankruptcies and mergers now there are only 4 major airlines in the US (soon to be three when American merges with US Airways). In Canada, you have 2. In Europe, KLM and Air France are now one company, and Lufthansa has its hands in many smaller airlines. (While budget airlines keep prices cheap within Europe, once you leave the continent, those 10 Euro prices disappear!) As airlines have partnered up, merged, or gone bankrupt, there is little incentive or need to create low fares to win your business.


I think this is an even bigger factor....

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Secondly, the price of airline fuel has increased tremendously. Back in 1996, airline fuel cost 55 cents per gallon. Now, it’s $2.97 per gallon. Airlines can’t absorb all of that increase, so they pass some of that on to the consumer, leading to higher fares.


and then there is this as well...

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Additionally, airline taxes and security fees have also increased, adding a lot of money onto your base fare. Currently, the following fees are added to the cost of your ticket:

September 11th Security Fee of $2.50 (up to a maximum of $10 per round-trip).
Passenger facility charges of $4.50 per segment (up to a maximum of $18 per round-trip).
US Federal Domestic Segment Fee of $3.70 per segment.
US Travel Facilities Tax of $8.20 per direction (only applicable to flights to/from Alaska and Hawaii and the 48 contiguous US states or between Alaska and Hawaii);
US Immigration User fee of $7.
US Customs User fee of $5.50.
US APHIS User fee of $5, US International Transportation Tax of $16.30 per arrival or departure; and Foreign Government security/tourism/airport/international transportation taxes and fees of up to $290 (varies widely by destination and fluctuates with exchange rates).


And then there is international travel....

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That’s a hell of a lot of fees! And it’s not just the United States. Ever fly into London? Half the price of the ticket is made up of the fees and taxes!


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Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:39 am to
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You're a moron. Europe is a lot further than Florida.

Insightful.
Posted by TheEye
Rightcha.
Member since Dec 2006
4737 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:40 am to
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The biggest mystery is when I fly somewhere, half of the people on the plane look like they'd have to roll pennies for a tank of gas...much less spending $600 on a flight

That's b/c they haven't eaten or bought new clothes in a while to save up for the flight
Posted by FAF
NOLA
Member since May 2014
1427 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:40 am to
Someone's gotta pay for all of those overpriced, unionized TSA employees.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13858 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:41 am to
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That's not bad. For both me and my wife, I've spent over $6000 in total air fare to Italy last month and for a trip to Vegas

ITALY IS FURTHER THAN FLORIDA GO frick YOURSELF.
This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 10:42 am
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27573 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:42 am to
Because people are fricking fat these days, and fat people on average require more fuel to move their fat asses through the air.

every pound makes a difference when it comes to jet fuel.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129003 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:42 am to
$400 is actually not bad considering you are trying 2 weeks out


My flight that I booked back in March from Phx to BR was $360 total.


It is what it is.
Posted by Jon Bovi
South Louisiana
Member since Sep 2012
142 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:42 am to
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I just paid $1500 for a roundtrip ticket to Europe. So you get no sympathy from me.



$1,500 rt to Europe is extremely cheap.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21450 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:43 am to
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major Florida airports?


What do you consider a major airport?

Miami/Ft Lauderdal is ~$250 for a flight next week, leaving on a f'ing Saturday on SW. I'd bet any other airport is even cheaper.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:48 am to
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Miami/Ft Lauderdal is ~$250 for a flight next week, leaving on a f'ing Saturday on SW. I'd bet any other airport is even cheaper.

I just looked for shits and giggle and it's $299 or 18,232 pts one way out of Houston Hobby and basically the same thing coming back. Not bad at all.
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
7350 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:59 am to
Plus reduced capacity. I have taken 65 flights this year and only one or two have had more than 10 empty seats. The folks in revenue management at the airlines are doing work!
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38686 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:16 am to
Airlines have virtual monopolies at many of their hub airports. With very little competition at any particular airport, they can charge high prices. And during the recession, most airlines reduced the number of flights per day to any particular destination and hence the number of available seats. With more people flying now, they haven't really increased the number of flights so more demand = $$$.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:20 am to
I fly on my private jet. No idea what you poor people have to pay.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:22 am to
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$400 round trip to any of the major Florida airports?


drive there and tell me how much it cost...not to mention the time it takes
Posted by Bdog9090
Jackson, MS.
Member since Mar 2010
99 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:23 am to
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$1,500 rt to Europe is extremely cheap.



No its not. If you book about 45 days out, you can get much cheaper than that. I'm pricing a flight to Milan in the beginning of July and I've found flights for $1075. I flew into Charles De Gaulle in February and it cost about $1100.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:25 am to
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My flight that I booked back in March from Phx to BR was $360 total.


what would it have been to NOLA?
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129003 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:25 am to
Like $300

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