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Why Do Chinese Drug Makers Sell Fentanyl?

Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:14 am
Posted by FCP
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:14 am
Serious question: China is flooding the US with fentanyl laced with who knows what else. In fact, our “opioid crisis” is more accurately the “fentanyl crisis.”

Since China DGAF about either patent law or criminal law, why don’t they just make OxyContin or hydrocodone or whatever? Why are they focusing on fentanyl instead of just making knock off RX pills? Surely they have the technology and IP available.
Posted by Mr Clean
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:15 am to
I’m inboxing them now.

I’ll let you know their response
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 10:16 am
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:15 am to
Because
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China DGAF
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:15 am to
It's cheap and much stronger at small doses
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:15 am to
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Why Do Chinese Drug Makers Sell Fentanyl?
They can make much more money off of Fentanyl than they can pills.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:17 am to

Because it’s effective at killing Americans.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:21 am to
Because those commies are capitalist af. Demand met with supply. These are usually factories doing off hours shite, not on the up and up.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:22 am to
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Why Do Chinese Drug Makers Sell Fentanyl?




I'm guessing because they can and its profitable.


The savagery of mainland China really can't be overstated. No pun intended, its a dog eat dog world over there.
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
4777 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:25 am to
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Demand met with supply.
This I get, but SWIM says generic 10mg hydrocodone is going for $5 or more apiece on the dark web. I mean $500 for a bottle of pills. Surely China would want in on that action if they’re already flooding us with fentanyl.
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:28 am to
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China is flooding the US with fentanyl laced with who knows what else
Pretty sure if you’re getting fentanyl you don’t have to worry about “what else” is in it.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9939 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:33 am to
A tiny amount of fentanyl goes a very long way. They can manufacture it and get it in the country easily. Then cut it and sell as heroine or press into pain pills here. A pill bottle may be worth $500, but a pill bottle full of fentanyl can make 50,000 black market pain pills.

Posted by Ragnar Danneskjold
North of you
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:48 am to
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Because it’s effective at killing Americans.



The West poured opium into China in the 1800's, and their society literally collapsed. BY NO MEANS am I justifying their actions. But that's way. Tits and tats and such.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57462 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:48 am to
Because of money

It isn’t a difficult question to figure out
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5258 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:52 am to
quote:

Serious question: China is flooding the US with fentanyl laced with who knows what else. In fact, our “opioid crisis” is more accurately the “fentanyl crisis.” Since China DGAF about either patent law or criminal law, why don’t they just make OxyContin or hydrocodone or whatever? Why are they focusing on fentanyl instead of just making knock off RX pills? Surely they have the technology and IP available.


This is going to sound mean, but I love it when people think they know about a complex issue, such as Chinese fentanyl, and form a concrete opinion around it, only to be wrong on almost every fact they know.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:52 am to
Because China. These are the same people who would kill a herd of elephants if they thought it would give them a better orgasm.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:52 am to
Because they want to kill people.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60140 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:52 am to
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Because those commies are capitalist af


Except not really though
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:00 am to
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A tiny amount of fentanyl goes a very long way. They can manufacture it and get it in the country easily. Then cut it and sell as heroine or press into pain pills here. A pill bottle may be worth $500, but a pill bottle full of fentanyl can make 50,000 black market pain pills.


I suspect that this is a big part of the answer. It's like Coca-Cola selling the syrup instead of the final product. Why go through the trouble, effort and cost of shipping all that water when you can just send the syrup and let the retailer add water? It's easier to get a shoebox full of fentanyl into the U.S. and cut it down later into a shipping container full of pills than it is to get a shipping container full of pills into the U.S.

Fentanyl = opioid concentrate
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 11:02 am
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
4777 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:01 am to
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a pill bottle full of fentanyl can make 50,000 black market pain pills.
That makes sense. It’s just weird looking around the dark corners of the web and finding cocaine, LSD, etc more readily available than opiate pain meds. Seems like someone—maybe China, maybe Mexican cartels—would be trying to capitalize on that market.

I’m a Libertarian, so I think it should all be legal. It just strikes me as strange to see all the weird shite that becomes available (i.e., fake weed, fentanyl) when the actual products work better with far fewer dangerous side effects.

Wildest trip I ever took was on that fake weed bullshite. It was before LA outlawed it, and it was available at gas stations. That shite fricked me up. Like hallucinating and couldn’t walk kind of fricked up.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53847 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:01 am to
It isn't fentanyl tainted with other stuff that is the problem. It is other stuff tainted with fentanyl. Imagine buying 25 hydrocodone pills. Imagine you take five of them and everything is great. Now, imagine you take the sixth pill and it kills you.
China has a large market for counterfeit pills in the US. They look very similar to the real deal. They cannot continue to sell those fake pills on the black market if they don't get people high. They can cheaply produce fentanyl and cheaply press it into the form of legitimate pain pills, thousands at a time. However, the presses and the people running them are not very good. From the same batch, one pill can have little-to-no fentanyl in it while another can have 10 times the lethal dose.
The Chinese plants and labs can manufacture many more pills using fentanyl than the opioids that are actually used in the legitimate pills and sell them at the same street value.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 11:02 am
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