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Why did it take so long for police to finally engage the Orlando shooter?
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:33 pm
I'm not trying to flame or anything, but I would like an honest real answer because i have been wondering. From what I have heard the shooter was finally dead three hours after he first begin his reign of terror. Why did this take so long?
Is there certain police protocol and their safety since they were outgunned. Why couldnt officers just jump in there when shots are constantly going off and bodies are falling...
Maybe someone here involved in law enforcement or something of this nature can help me. Again, I'm not in no way flaming Orlando PD in anyway, I just want to know reasons
Is there certain police protocol and their safety since they were outgunned. Why couldnt officers just jump in there when shots are constantly going off and bodies are falling...
Maybe someone here involved in law enforcement or something of this nature can help me. Again, I'm not in no way flaming Orlando PD in anyway, I just want to know reasons
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Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:39 pm to QJenk
Theycan't just bust in there without assessing the situation first
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:40 pm to QJenk
Police were attempting negotiating, buying time.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:44 pm to QJenk
He had possible hostages
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:45 pm to QJenk
For one, he told them he had bombs that he was strapping to hostages
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:48 pm to QJenk
had to make sure it was an act of Christian gun violence and not Islamic terrorism
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:50 pm to QJenk
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:54 pm to QJenk
He locked himself in a bathroom with hostages and said he had a bomb
Posted on 6/15/16 at 8:55 pm to QJenk
There was a guy standing in front of the door
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:03 pm to QJenk
It would have taken a lot of courage and initiative for one or two officers to enter the building, perhaps through another entrance. And a lot of luck to get to the guy. That didn't happen.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:03 pm to QJenk
>>they were outgunned
The local SWAT team was definitely not outgunned, they were armed better than the murderer. But you don't want to charge into a bomb spraying nails either.
Reports are that they were also worried about booby traps. Apparently there were indications that the perp might have placed explosives specifically to stop LEO from charging in to save the day.
The local SWAT team was definitely not outgunned, they were armed better than the murderer. But you don't want to charge into a bomb spraying nails either.
Reports are that they were also worried about booby traps. Apparently there were indications that the perp might have placed explosives specifically to stop LEO from charging in to save the day.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:07 pm to QJenk
Why not take a few minutes and do a little research before getting on a chat board and asking questions?
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:08 pm to QJenk
The bar was a gun free zone, can't just run in there melting the barrels
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:16 pm to terriblegreen
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Why not take a few minutes and do a little research before getting on a chat board and asking questions?
This. The police went in almost immediately once they were there, and the perp retreated into a bathroom with 5-6 other people. More on that may be out now. But he retreated into the bathroom and made the phone calls, they thought that he may of had explosives so they tried to negotiate. I haven't seen what changed their mind to go in finally.
But the vast majority of people in the club were no longer in the gunman's sights not long after it started because he went into a bathroom.
This post was edited on 6/15/16 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:17 pm to terriblegreen
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Why not take a few minutes and do a little research before getting on a chat board and asking questions?*
*Does not apply to SEC Rant.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:17 pm to SEClint
Um he shot up over 50 people probably at that time. Even if he had hostages he lost all leverage by his actions at that point. He's clearly too evil to ration with.. I think it was more for concern of a possible bomb situation.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:26 pm to beauchristopher
well, too bad you weren't there in charge.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:36 pm to SEClint
It's a lose lose situation but I think it's better to just
bumrush the shooter as soon as possible.
Less life will be lost in the long term. You can't negotiate
with these pricks.
Don't give him time to think....and shoot. Just kill the piece
of shite as soon as possible.
bumrush the shooter as soon as possible.
Less life will be lost in the long term. You can't negotiate
with these pricks.
Don't give him time to think....and shoot. Just kill the piece
of shite as soon as possible.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:36 pm to SEClint
Didn't some of the hostages tell the police he had more people helping him as well. Thought I read something about him telling people he had a suicide bomber playing dead in the club and snipers outside too.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 9:39 pm to QJenk
quote:They had to give him time to call 911 and make several Facebook posts.
Why did it take so long for police to finally engage the Orlando shooter?
Otherwise how could they have connected him to Islamic terrorism and ISIS?
Law enforcement is smarter than you give them credit for.
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