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re: Why are dot on the forehead Indians so unathletic?
Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:26 pm to toosleaux
Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:26 pm to toosleaux
Its genetics and supported by science
Mean lean muscle mass (kg)
black males = 65.6kg
White males = 62 kg
Hispanic males = 59.9 kg
Asian males = 59.6 kg
Indian males = 53.3 kg
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"The researchers found that South Asian men had at least 3 kg less of skeletal muscle than Chinese and European men. South Asian women also had less muscle mass than their counterparts of other ethnicities — by at least 2 kg."
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Asian Indians tend to have more abdominal adipose tissue, less lean body mass (LBM) and higher magnitude of insulin resistance (IR) despite falling in the normal range of body mass index (BMI) [1]. The high value of waist hip ratio in Asian Indians may be due to less lean mass of the hips and greater fat at the levels of waist [2]. Another study showed that Asian Indian men have low muscle mass and 30% more total body fat (BF) than other ethnic groups [3]. Low lean mass is also evident in Asian Indian neonates as compared to white Caucasian neonates [4].
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Indians have 30% weaker lungs than Europeans: Study
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South asians (INDIANS) have the weakest grip strength of all people
HGS values differed among individuals from different geographic regions. HGS values were highest among those from Europe/North America, lowest among those from South Asia, South East Asia and Africa, and intermediate among those from China, South America, and the Middle East. Reference ranges stratified by geographic region, age, and sex are presented. These ranges varied from a median (25th–75th percentile) 50?kg (43–56?kg) in men <40?years from Europe/North America to 18?kg (14–20?kg) in women >60?years from South East Asia. Reference ranges by ethnicity and body-mass index are also reported.
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Mean lean muscle mass (kg)
black males = 65.6kg
White males = 62 kg
Hispanic males = 59.9 kg
Asian males = 59.6 kg
Indian males = 53.3 kg
LINK /
"The researchers found that South Asian men had at least 3 kg less of skeletal muscle than Chinese and European men. South Asian women also had less muscle mass than their counterparts of other ethnicities — by at least 2 kg."
LINK
Asian Indians tend to have more abdominal adipose tissue, less lean body mass (LBM) and higher magnitude of insulin resistance (IR) despite falling in the normal range of body mass index (BMI) [1]. The high value of waist hip ratio in Asian Indians may be due to less lean mass of the hips and greater fat at the levels of waist [2]. Another study showed that Asian Indian men have low muscle mass and 30% more total body fat (BF) than other ethnic groups [3]. Low lean mass is also evident in Asian Indian neonates as compared to white Caucasian neonates [4].
LINK
Indians have 30% weaker lungs than Europeans: Study
LINK
South asians (INDIANS) have the weakest grip strength of all people
HGS values differed among individuals from different geographic regions. HGS values were highest among those from Europe/North America, lowest among those from South Asia, South East Asia and Africa, and intermediate among those from China, South America, and the Middle East. Reference ranges stratified by geographic region, age, and sex are presented. These ranges varied from a median (25th–75th percentile) 50?kg (43–56?kg) in men <40?years from Europe/North America to 18?kg (14–20?kg) in women >60?years from South East Asia. Reference ranges by ethnicity and body-mass index are also reported.
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This post was edited on 5/14/17 at 10:48 pm
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:37 pm to lsucoonass
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Disagree, the Bollywood actresses are gorgeous
besides the actresses, how many hot Indian women have you seen?
Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:41 pm to 632627
Actually quite a few, although the majority I've seen have been in the healthcare field
Posted on 5/14/17 at 11:30 pm to TigerBait1971
If I went by tone of this thread I'd say because we are smarter that the rest of you lot and don't waste time on sports.
But the real reason is because the education system in India is way more intense than literally anywhere else. It is easier for some to get into Ivy League schools here than getting into the better schools there. You barely have any time to play after school work and your parents actively discourage you from sports because your chances of making it are miniscule. They'd much rather you devote the same time to studying and get a "real" job. Also the society emphasizes the value of a good education more than anything else. Being smart is very important there.
Source: I grew up and went to engineering school in India.
Also, damn there are some ignorant and racist motherfrickers here.
But the real reason is because the education system in India is way more intense than literally anywhere else. It is easier for some to get into Ivy League schools here than getting into the better schools there. You barely have any time to play after school work and your parents actively discourage you from sports because your chances of making it are miniscule. They'd much rather you devote the same time to studying and get a "real" job. Also the society emphasizes the value of a good education more than anything else. Being smart is very important there.
Source: I grew up and went to engineering school in India.
Also, damn there are some ignorant and racist motherfrickers here.
This post was edited on 5/14/17 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 5/14/17 at 11:40 pm to WeOnlyHateMancs
Yes we're ignorant
Posted on 5/14/17 at 11:43 pm to WeOnlyHateMancs
All my sources were peer reviewed studies. Don't know how that is ignorant. You can read the studies yourself. If you disagree with the fact that indians are at a physical disadvantage please provide some peer reviewed studies to refute my assertions
Posted on 5/14/17 at 11:46 pm to lsucoonass
some amazing amount of racism in this thread. impressive even for td standards.
not directed at lsucoonass
not directed at lsucoonass
Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:01 am to WeOnlyHateMancs
quote:
If I went by tone of this thread I'd say because we are smarter that the rest of you lot and don't waste time on sports.
But the real reason is because the education system in India is way more intense than literally anywhere else. It is easier for some to get into Ivy League schools here than getting into the better schools there. You barely have any time to play after school work and your parents actively discourage you from sports because your chances of making it are miniscule. They'd much rather you devote the same time to studying and get a "real" job. Also the society emphasizes the value of a good education more than anything else. Being smart is very important there.
Source: I grew up and went to engineering school in India.
Also, damn there are some ignorant and racist motherfrickers here.
This post is awesome, and I agree with every word.
I was going to say that I know plenty of second-generation Indian-American dudes in the States who are tremendous athletes (probably, on median, better athletes than the white guys I know) - but they grew up surrounded by an American diet and an American emphasis on athletics as opposed to what their parents grew up around. One of the best basketball players I've ever played with was an Indian Muslim guy who was asked to walk on at IU; he grew up in Texas.
It's pretty much all cultural emphasis and diet. Granted, you'd know better than I (I know mostly Punjabi and Gujarati dudes), but their parents' (the first generation's) diet is absolutely terrible for developing an athletic body. It's way too high in carbs and sugar and way too low in animal protein; that's just kind of how Indian food is. As a white dude raised in the States, I start to crave beef and bacon by day 2 of any Indian wedding I ever go to. Animal protein as a youngster is good for physical development.
The cultural emphasis cannot be understated, either. Indian parents generally do not give a frick how well you do in sports. I'd go so far to say that, even in the States, most of my Indian friends only played sports (many even at a very high level, especially in tennis, golf, basketball, and even baseball) in order to boost their college resumes. Again, my experience is largely limited to Punjabi and Gujarati people, so that does not apply to everyone on the sub-continent. My Keralan friends are a bit different in a lot of this, as a caveat.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 12:04 am
Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:02 am to LordSaintly
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I think cricket is India's biggest sport. You just don't hear about their major athletes.
You do not see Aussie vs India cricket scores and in depth interviews with the managers about the kid that bowled.
link is to India's world champion guess the sport
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:12 am to polishlion
Not directed at you. Genetics may be a contributing factor. However India is a ridiculously genetically diverse country and there are other factors here that are larger contributors.
High carb diet, Economics and most importantly very little sports or exercise when you're growing up. Indians make damn good cricketers and cricket, regardless of what TD will have you believe, is a ridiculously demanding game. If it was merely genetics there would be no good cricketers in India. They play cricket because it's the only sport that gets on the telly and the only one that has the economic base that may be a viable source of income. My $0.02.
High carb diet, Economics and most importantly very little sports or exercise when you're growing up. Indians make damn good cricketers and cricket, regardless of what TD will have you believe, is a ridiculously demanding game. If it was merely genetics there would be no good cricketers in India. They play cricket because it's the only sport that gets on the telly and the only one that has the economic base that may be a viable source of income. My $0.02.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:29 am to TigerBait1971
Usually I'm the one to make ignorant blanket statements like this.
Youve never seen Jai Alai.
I was an intern for Air India in New Delhi during college. The Injuns love it.
Youve never seen Jai Alai.
I was an intern for Air India in New Delhi during college. The Injuns love it.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:33 am to Brosef Stalin
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Dhalsim
Good laugh from that one early in the morning!
Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:50 am to TigerBait1971
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This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 5:08 am
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:09 am to 632627
Do you even Trinidad carnival baw?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:24 am to TigerBait1971
quote:
Why are dot on the forehead Indians so unathletic?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:30 am to 632627
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They are also, by far, the least attractive ethnicity
Yeah, like there's only one ethnicity in India.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:34 am to TigerBait1971
But they can fill the Icee machine better than you
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:59 pm to polishlion
The lung capacity of Indians is 30 per cent lower than North Americans or Europeans or Chinese, making them highly vulnerable to diabetes, heart attacks or strokes, says a top scientist.
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"Asian Indians had more fat, both total and in the abdominal region, with less lean mass, skeletal muscle and bone mineral than all other ethnic groups"
Body size, body composition and fat distribution: comparative analysis of European, Maori, Pacific Island and Asian Indian adults.
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The lung capacity of Indians is 30 per cent lower than North Americans or Europeans or Chinese, making them highly vulnerable to diabetes, heart attacks or strokes, says a top scientist.
LINK
At any given body fat mass value, South Asians had significantly less lean mass than each of the three other groups after adjustment for age, height, humerus breadth, smoking status, physical activity, and diet. Aboriginal, Chinese, and European men had 3.42 kg [95% confidence interval (CI) = 1.55–5.29], 3.01 kg (95% CI = 1.33–4.70), and 3.57 kg (95% CI = 1.82–5.33) more lean mass than South Asian men at a given total fat mass, respectively"
Ethnic Variation in Fat and Lean Body Mass and the Association with Insulin Resistance
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"Asian Indians had more fat, both total and in the abdominal region, with less lean mass, skeletal muscle and bone mineral than all other ethnic groups"
Body size, body composition and fat distribution: comparative analysis of European, Maori, Pacific Island and Asian Indian adults.
LINK ?
The lung capacity of Indians is 30 per cent lower than North Americans or Europeans or Chinese, making them highly vulnerable to diabetes, heart attacks or strokes, says a top scientist.
LINK
At any given body fat mass value, South Asians had significantly less lean mass than each of the three other groups after adjustment for age, height, humerus breadth, smoking status, physical activity, and diet. Aboriginal, Chinese, and European men had 3.42 kg [95% confidence interval (CI) = 1.55–5.29], 3.01 kg (95% CI = 1.33–4.70), and 3.57 kg (95% CI = 1.82–5.33) more lean mass than South Asian men at a given total fat mass, respectively"
Ethnic Variation in Fat and Lean Body Mass and the Association with Insulin Resistance
LINK
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:02 pm to polishlion
It took forever but you answered it thoroughly.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:03 pm to TigerBait1971
quote:Jim Thorpe
Can you name a famous Indian athlete?
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