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Why Are American Health Care Costs So High?
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:05 am
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:05 am
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:11 am to Phat Phil
Bc the costs covers things that are largely preventable such as cad, diabetes, stroke, obesity, etc
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:11 am to Phat Phil
Obama
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:12 am to Phat Phil
quote:
Why Are American Health Care Costs So High?
2 reasons:
Litigation nation
Captive audience
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:14 am to Wtodd
Litigation is correct
Also, SEVERE epidemic of insurance fraud by the entire medical profession. The amounts and numbers of services and supplies charged to insurance is horrifying.
Insurance companies and medical profession in it together to make money while sticking it to consumer
Also, SEVERE epidemic of insurance fraud by the entire medical profession. The amounts and numbers of services and supplies charged to insurance is horrifying.
Insurance companies and medical profession in it together to make money while sticking it to consumer
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 6:16 am
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:17 am to Phat Phil
quote:why do you say we get 'nothing' in return?
Why do we spend more tax money on healthcare and essentially get nothing in return?
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:18 am to Rouge
End of life care. Something like 90% of a person lifetime health care costs come in end of life.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:19 am to Phat Phil
1.) insurance
2.) Medicaid
2.) Medicaid
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:20 am to Phat Phil
Control the peoples healthcare access, you will control the people. This is yet another example of the 1% (politicians) in control while 90% sit here like sheep and wait to get screwed. the remaining 9% have figured this out and no longer get pissed off by right vs left games and lead much happier lives outside of missing a significant portion of their paychecks to useless "services"
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:20 am to Phat Phil
Coast are high from litigation and fraud ..
We actually get a lot for health care in the US. I have lived in other countries under other systems and I'm glad to be back in the US system.
We actually get a lot for health care in the US. I have lived in other countries under other systems and I'm glad to be back in the US system.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:22 am to Rouge
quote:
Insurance companies and medical profession in it together to make money while sticking it to consumer
And this rigged scheme will never ever go away because government continues to meddle in healthcare policy and set forth regulations that pick winners and losers and they want it to stay that way because they sure as shite wouldn't survive in a real free market that holds the merchant accountable with their wallets.
Crony capitalism is why we're stuck with this.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:25 am to Rouge
quote:
Insurance companies and medical profession in it together to make money while sticking it to consumer
Not exactly correct. Insurance is the issue but its not that they collude to make money, its that they shield the patient from the real cost.
Most people do not know what the bill for their care really is, they only know the co-pay. If patients were forced to pay the prices really charged I don't think most people could pay it, therefore prices come down (hello capitalism).
Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:03 am to BatonRougeBuckeye
Free health care then
Feel the bern
Actually that wouldn't work here in America
Feel the bern
Actually that wouldn't work here in America
Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:06 am to lsucoonass
Why not do away with health insurance except for major medical.
Let the docs compete under that. Lower prices. Better service. Open Saturdays.
We are a Capitalist country.
Let the docs compete under that. Lower prices. Better service. Open Saturdays.
We are a Capitalist country.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:07 am to lsucoonass
quote:
Bc the costs covers things that are largely preventable such as cad, diabetes, stroke, obesity, etc
And don't forget adds in pregnancy visits and everything. Even if you are a single male.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:11 am to Phat Phil
A large determinant are the nations own choices. The more unhealthy choices we make, the more expensive healthcare will be because of the greatly increased demand.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:14 am to Phat Phil
quote:
Why Are American Sick Care Costs So High
FIFY
As a society we do not value health
We scoff at the importance of:
Nutrition
Activity
Sleep
Stress management
We have traded health for convenience. We work in complete opposition to our environment (in a word, mismatched)
The system is designed to treat the sick, not maintain the healthy (that my friend is on you/us...)
Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:16 am to Phat Phil
Because "insurance" is used to hide the true costs and pay for routine treatment. The whole pricing system evolved under this stupid model.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:17 am to Phat Phil
Because the system is a mixture of the worst of private and public. Neither has the appropriate combination of incentive and ability to control costs.
So we end up with the combination of the most expensive and most mediocre medical outcomes in the developed world. The system rocks if you are a really wealthy person for whom the costs are irrelevant. The system isn't that bad if you are a pretty poor person - there are at least some treatment options if not great facilities anxious to care for you. The system is not a great deal at all if you are neither poor nor very wealthy. For the majority of Americans systems ranging from Taiwan to Europe would do a more efficient job - resulting in better health outcomes overall.
So we end up with the combination of the most expensive and most mediocre medical outcomes in the developed world. The system rocks if you are a really wealthy person for whom the costs are irrelevant. The system isn't that bad if you are a pretty poor person - there are at least some treatment options if not great facilities anxious to care for you. The system is not a great deal at all if you are neither poor nor very wealthy. For the majority of Americans systems ranging from Taiwan to Europe would do a more efficient job - resulting in better health outcomes overall.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:18 am to Phat Phil
Many legitimate points in this thread.
One that hasn't been touched on is the fact employers need to get out of the health insurance business. If they want their employees to hold insurance and be healthy as possible, subsidize it by giving them a monthly allowance and let the employee go to the market place and purchase their own policy that suits them.
This will in turn make the insurance companies accountable to the 'actual' customer and not just the customer that does the buying but not the using. As it is right now the insurance companies only have to make the employers that supply the benifits happy, they don't give a frick if the actual person receiving the coverage is happy.
This also makes the insurance companies have more a'la crate plans.
One that hasn't been touched on is the fact employers need to get out of the health insurance business. If they want their employees to hold insurance and be healthy as possible, subsidize it by giving them a monthly allowance and let the employee go to the market place and purchase their own policy that suits them.
This will in turn make the insurance companies accountable to the 'actual' customer and not just the customer that does the buying but not the using. As it is right now the insurance companies only have to make the employers that supply the benifits happy, they don't give a frick if the actual person receiving the coverage is happy.
This also makes the insurance companies have more a'la crate plans.
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