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re: Why Americans Suddenly Stopped Hanging Out
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:02 am to djmed
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:02 am to djmed
The simple answer is electronic entertainment in all its forms. First radio, then television, then video games, then the internet. Prior to that, you had to leave your house to find amusement.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:02 am to djmed
Hanging out is expensive and uber-sanitized.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:07 am to FearTheFish
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At first I laughed....then I cried
Here, have an E-tissue.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:08 am to djmed
The article itself says it wasn't sudden.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:10 am to Hangover Haven
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So, social media is destroying society? Ironic...
As you post on a social media site
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:10 am to Fat and Happy
quote:Went to this place where you throw axes at the wall and play games with a projector. fricking like $50 for 30 mins. To throw an ax at a piece of plywood. Then I realized it’s probably because of insurance costs. Then I realized that it’s because if someone gets hurt, the lawyers will get involved. Then I realized lawyers have ruined this country.
Because doing social stuff has gotten stupidly expensive for the average person.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:12 am to djmed
The media convincing everyone that there’s rampant -isms everywhere doesn’t help. It’s created an everyone is my enemy mindset.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:16 am to WillieD
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As you post on a social media site
Look at you make those big brain observations...
However, I still "hang out" with people. I'm at work right now between assignments.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:16 am to djmed
This is a white people problem.
Middle/upper middle class white people have been moving away for college and/or jobs for a couple decades and the lack of community is taking its toll.
Middle/upper middle class white people have been moving away for college and/or jobs for a couple decades and the lack of community is taking its toll.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:16 am to djmed
People don't like to hear it, but DUI laws (and the general demonization of drinking and driving) have played a huge role here.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:17 am to MorbidTheClown
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cause most people suck
And they are deluded by thinking that staring at their phones or posting on websites is a true substitute for human contact and interaction.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:17 am to djmed
There were a few years recently that governments wouldn’t let us hangout.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:17 am to djmed
The internet, social media, and smartphones are antisocial. Then you have government and other organizations who sow division at every turn. Fragment society, pit people against each other, reap the profits.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:21 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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This is a white people problem.
Middle/upper middle class white people have been moving away for college and/or jobs for a couple decades and the lack of community is taking its toll.
article mentions that
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The second explanation is that people are hanging out less because we’re all so damn busy. As The New York Times’ Jessica Grose notes, people in their 30s and 40s have less leisure time than they did two decades ago. As Anne Helen Petersen has said, Americans have a tendency to spread out, and the built environment of the U.S. housing market forces many people to move away from friends and family, which means they ultimately buy a bit of loneliness with their money.
It’s a compelling argument, and as a new father, I can appreciate how the demands of child care and work might squeeze out the last drops of social time. But the data say this can’t be the whole story. Research by the Philadelphia Fed has found that time alone has increased most for low-income, nonwhite individuals, for whom hours worked haven’t increased much in the past 20 years. This would complicate the idea that loneliness is the price of overscheduled busyness. Twenge told me she’s also unconvinced by the argument about congested schedules, at least as it applies to teenagers. “Sometimes I’ll hear the case that teens are spending so much more time on homework, but the evidence suggests it’s just not true,” she said. “In fact, homework time has gone down in the past few years. The share of teens who have jobs has gone down. Despite some parents jam-packing their kids’ schedules, overall extracurricular time looks pretty stable in surveys. If anything, teens today have more leisure time than they used to. They just choose to spend it on their phones.”
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:22 am to djmed
There is a good bit of truth to this. I have read and heard it asserted that part of the isolation began with the invention of air conditioning was a major factor in the decline of active neighborhoods. The same applies to the proliferation of the automobile, and then the air conditioned automobile.
People, especially here in the South, would do anything to escape the stifling heat inside the house. In the way before times, they would build dogtrot homes with high ceilings and large porches to circulate the air and ameliorate the heat.
In the evenings, families would congregate on the porch of the home, neighbors would "hang out" and talk and socialize. Since they already knew each other, and often ran in the same social circles--churches, fraternal organizations, etc. -- those institutions thrived.
With the advent of A/C folks could beat the heat and started, over time, staying inside where it was cool, and we lost touch with each other. The kids were closer as they still played together in the neighborhood, and learned together in school. The parents, however, who got in their air conditioned cars and drove to work, then returned home from car to house grew separate.
In our times, now with all the OTHER distractions on top of this we have the so-called "I don't join things..." fiercely isolated folks.
I dunno, just my take on this.
People, especially here in the South, would do anything to escape the stifling heat inside the house. In the way before times, they would build dogtrot homes with high ceilings and large porches to circulate the air and ameliorate the heat.
In the evenings, families would congregate on the porch of the home, neighbors would "hang out" and talk and socialize. Since they already knew each other, and often ran in the same social circles--churches, fraternal organizations, etc. -- those institutions thrived.
With the advent of A/C folks could beat the heat and started, over time, staying inside where it was cool, and we lost touch with each other. The kids were closer as they still played together in the neighborhood, and learned together in school. The parents, however, who got in their air conditioned cars and drove to work, then returned home from car to house grew separate.
In our times, now with all the OTHER distractions on top of this we have the so-called "I don't join things..." fiercely isolated folks.
I dunno, just my take on this.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:30 am to bayouvette
quote:tbh this is definitely a bigger factor than we’d like to admit
Drinking and driving
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:37 am to djmed
People are living longer so young adults socialize with family members longer than they used to. It used to be pretty common that most grandparents and aunts and uncles were mostly gone by the time a young families adults were in their mid 30s and their kids were pre-teens. No granny and grandpaw are in the 80s going strong and what time young families have to socialize is focused on doing so with family.
Helicopter parenting is also a factor. Hard to have a social life as an adult if you can't be more than 3 feet from your 9 year old for more than a few minutes without panicking.
ALL social and civic groups are about exclusion, not inclusion. Most of them have a bunch of old people who have belonged for years who do so to exclude younger members. If this weren't so they'd be open to everyone and would welcome everyone. Try that at an Elks Lodge.
They are all also very time consuming...how many 30 year olds have time to become a mason, even if they had the desire?
I think the biggest factor though is the fact that about 95% of the people in the United State's biggest joy in life is being a victim AND finding fault in other people. We get what passes for social interaction on forums like this where no one knows who we are and we can act like an arse with no risk. Even in families people rarely speak to one another...they have their faces buried in their phone doing frick all and never speak. Whole families sitting at dinner staring at a phone. We do not know how to socialize anymore. Kids don't play together unless their parents are around directing the action, teens stare at their phones and torment one another digitally 24-7 and talking to co-workers about ANY subject other than work will turn into a political discussion in a short period of time or someone will get offended and someone will be called to stand tall before the man. It ain't worth the risk.
I was in my dentists waiting room Monday afternoon. There were 6 of us, middle aged white men, sitting in that room and no one was talking. A younger man walked in, sat down, and said "darn, it must be men only days on Monday around here". 2 of us chuckled and agreed and started up a conversation about the Super Bowl. Within 3 minutes the other middle aged white man started in with the Taylor Swift throwing up satanic hand gestures to the camera and the game was never on the screen because Taylor Swift was on the screen. No body can talk to that moron...and they are PLENTIFUL...and do not mind putting their mental illness on display for the world to witness. Me and the young guy went back to staring at our phones while old boy kept on and on until they called him back. Nobody wants to be in any kind of social club with that goofball....
Helicopter parenting is also a factor. Hard to have a social life as an adult if you can't be more than 3 feet from your 9 year old for more than a few minutes without panicking.
ALL social and civic groups are about exclusion, not inclusion. Most of them have a bunch of old people who have belonged for years who do so to exclude younger members. If this weren't so they'd be open to everyone and would welcome everyone. Try that at an Elks Lodge.
They are all also very time consuming...how many 30 year olds have time to become a mason, even if they had the desire?
I think the biggest factor though is the fact that about 95% of the people in the United State's biggest joy in life is being a victim AND finding fault in other people. We get what passes for social interaction on forums like this where no one knows who we are and we can act like an arse with no risk. Even in families people rarely speak to one another...they have their faces buried in their phone doing frick all and never speak. Whole families sitting at dinner staring at a phone. We do not know how to socialize anymore. Kids don't play together unless their parents are around directing the action, teens stare at their phones and torment one another digitally 24-7 and talking to co-workers about ANY subject other than work will turn into a political discussion in a short period of time or someone will get offended and someone will be called to stand tall before the man. It ain't worth the risk.
I was in my dentists waiting room Monday afternoon. There were 6 of us, middle aged white men, sitting in that room and no one was talking. A younger man walked in, sat down, and said "darn, it must be men only days on Monday around here". 2 of us chuckled and agreed and started up a conversation about the Super Bowl. Within 3 minutes the other middle aged white man started in with the Taylor Swift throwing up satanic hand gestures to the camera and the game was never on the screen because Taylor Swift was on the screen. No body can talk to that moron...and they are PLENTIFUL...and do not mind putting their mental illness on display for the world to witness. Me and the young guy went back to staring at our phones while old boy kept on and on until they called him back. Nobody wants to be in any kind of social club with that goofball....
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:45 am to AwgustaDawg
we need to bring back social clubs. I wouldn't join any that would have me, but other people should. it would be good for them..
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