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When did the term "oriental" become "derogatory"?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:38 am
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:38 am
I guess I'm late to the PC party here, but when on earth did the term "oriental" become "derogatory"? What is bad about the term "oriental"? I don't get it.
Illinois Congressman
Illinois congressman uses derogatory term when describing raucous town halls
CARBONDALE, Ill. – An Illinois congressman compared town hall meetings, which for many Republicans have turned into raucous affairs, to the practice of "cleansing" by "Orientals."
Republican Rep. Mike Bost made the assertion during a meeting with the editorial board of the Southern Illinoisan in Carbondale.
Bost visited his 12th District last week, hosting a tele-town hall instead of an in-person one.
"The amount of time that I have at home is minimal, I need to make sure that it's productive," Bost told the editorial board. "You know the cleansing that the Orientals used to do where you'd put one person out in front and 900 people yell at them? That's not what we need. We need to have meetings with people that are productive."
In a statement Thursday, Bost said he "used a poor choice of words" in describing "coordinated disruptions" he says are taking place across the country.
Bost spokesman George O'Connor said Bost's use of Orientals was a reference to sessions during China's Cultural Revolution when individuals were publicly humiliated and subjected to verbal abuse by a crowd.
"While there was no malicious intent, I regret that my words may have distracted from an important point," Bost said. "When the booing and shouting drowns out the conversation we're trying to have with our constituents, it becomes that much harder to govern."
Some Republicans in Congress have participated in rowdy town halls in which crowds have expressed concerns about President Donald Trump's policies. A few, like Utah Congressman Jason Chaffetz, have been shouted down and booed.
Bost described the town halls as "out of control, which means you don't actually get to talk to people and listen, and we're looking for ways to do that."
In an editorial, the Southern Illinoisan noted that the people of his district want to have their voices heard, and doing it over the phone or the internet just won't do.
It went on to say, "It is part of his job description to, from time to time, take the heat. A leader should not be reluctant to meet with his constituents personally."
In 2012, as a state representative, Bost screamed profanities and referenced the Bible during a tirade directed at powerful House Speaker Mike Madigan. The outburst, which created an internet stir, came as House members prepared to vote on a contentious pension bill without a chance for debate or amendment.
Illinois Congressman
Illinois congressman uses derogatory term when describing raucous town halls
CARBONDALE, Ill. – An Illinois congressman compared town hall meetings, which for many Republicans have turned into raucous affairs, to the practice of "cleansing" by "Orientals."
Republican Rep. Mike Bost made the assertion during a meeting with the editorial board of the Southern Illinoisan in Carbondale.
Bost visited his 12th District last week, hosting a tele-town hall instead of an in-person one.
"The amount of time that I have at home is minimal, I need to make sure that it's productive," Bost told the editorial board. "You know the cleansing that the Orientals used to do where you'd put one person out in front and 900 people yell at them? That's not what we need. We need to have meetings with people that are productive."
In a statement Thursday, Bost said he "used a poor choice of words" in describing "coordinated disruptions" he says are taking place across the country.
Bost spokesman George O'Connor said Bost's use of Orientals was a reference to sessions during China's Cultural Revolution when individuals were publicly humiliated and subjected to verbal abuse by a crowd.
"While there was no malicious intent, I regret that my words may have distracted from an important point," Bost said. "When the booing and shouting drowns out the conversation we're trying to have with our constituents, it becomes that much harder to govern."
Some Republicans in Congress have participated in rowdy town halls in which crowds have expressed concerns about President Donald Trump's policies. A few, like Utah Congressman Jason Chaffetz, have been shouted down and booed.
Bost described the town halls as "out of control, which means you don't actually get to talk to people and listen, and we're looking for ways to do that."
In an editorial, the Southern Illinoisan noted that the people of his district want to have their voices heard, and doing it over the phone or the internet just won't do.
It went on to say, "It is part of his job description to, from time to time, take the heat. A leader should not be reluctant to meet with his constituents personally."
In 2012, as a state representative, Bost screamed profanities and referenced the Bible during a tirade directed at powerful House Speaker Mike Madigan. The outburst, which created an internet stir, came as House members prepared to vote on a contentious pension bill without a chance for debate or amendment.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:39 am to Jim Smith
Oriental = rug
Asian = person
You bigotted POS
Asian = person
You bigotted POS
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:39 am to Jim Smith
I don't remember this word ever not being derogatory
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:39 am to Jim Smith
Oriental refers to an object, like a rug. Asian refers to a person.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:40 am to Jim Smith
When it became synonymous with "happy ending".
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:40 am to lsu2006
quote:
Oriental = rug
Asian = person
You bigotted POS
This is actually more racist. Asia is the largest continent on Earth. Which is very very diverse and full of different peoples. Russians, Kazakhs, Indians, Chinese, Japanese etc.
The Orient is a much more specific area in the Far East where what people think of as "Asian" stuff comes from.
So calling them Asian is more "racist"
This post was edited on 3/3/17 at 10:44 am
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:41 am to Janky
quote:
Oriental refers to an object, like a rug. Asian refers to a person.
But what if you treat people as objects?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:41 am to Jim Smith
So when did snowflakes become yellow? I think it happened during Frank Zappa's career.
NOUN
1.
literary
the countries of Asia, especially eastern Asia.
2.the special luster of a pearl of the finest quality.
ADJECTIVE
1.
literary
situated in or belonging to the east; oriental.
VERB
1.align or position (something) relative to the points of a compass or other specified positions:
"the fires are oriented in direct line with the midsummer sunset"
synonyms: align · place · position · dispose
2.
(orient oneself)
find one's position in relation to new and strange surroundings:
"there are no street names that would enable her to orient herself"
synonyms: get/find one's bearings · establish one's location
NOUN
1.
literary
the countries of Asia, especially eastern Asia.
2.the special luster of a pearl of the finest quality.
ADJECTIVE
1.
literary
situated in or belonging to the east; oriental.
VERB
1.align or position (something) relative to the points of a compass or other specified positions:
"the fires are oriented in direct line with the midsummer sunset"
synonyms: align · place · position · dispose
2.
(orient oneself)
find one's position in relation to new and strange surroundings:
"there are no street names that would enable her to orient herself"
synonyms: get/find one's bearings · establish one's location
This post was edited on 3/3/17 at 10:45 am
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:43 am to ProjectP2294
I disagree Oriental is a term referred to people from far east asia or south east asia and Asian is a term referred to all asians from Turkey, arabia, to stans to india, and russians
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:44 am to randybobandy
quote:
So when did snowflakes become yellow? I think it happened during Frank Zappa's career.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:44 am to Jim Smith
when did it become PC to take offense to a derogatory word?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:44 am to Jim Smith
The fact that people constantly apologize for the stupidest shite annoys the frick out of me
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:44 am to randybobandy
Doesn't "the orient" refer to a region?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:44 am to fr33manator
quote:
So calling them Asian is more "racist"
Says the white guy
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:45 am to Jim Smith
quote:
When did the term "oriental" become "derogatory"?
Not too long after using the term "colored" for Black people did.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:46 am to Hammertime
so I guess my dad still using "Jap" is not a good thing?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:46 am to lsu2006
My daughter dates an Asian man. He said the term "oriental" is equivalent to using the term "colored" for blacks. I didn't know that either.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:47 am to Jim Smith
quote:
"While there was no malicious intent, I regret that my words may have distracted from an important point," Bost said. "When the booing and shouting drowns out the conversation we're trying to have with our constituents, it becomes that much harder to govern."
I like the way he kept the focus on the message he meant to convey rather than letting the criticism on the use of a dated word become the issue.
I don't see the issue with the term "oriental" either. Who decided it was derogatory, and why?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:47 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:
Not too long after using the term "colored" for Black people did.
Well it's bullshite then. Because the BLM people are demanding that they be called "people of color" nowadays. And the NAACP says hi.
Maybe chinamen will want to be called "people of the orient" next...
Which Truth be told is a more apt moniker.
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