re: When did society start looking down on blue collar jobs?

I believe it started late 70’s.

When the stink of Vietnam receded. College wasn’t just about hippies and draft avoidance. I know it was full blown as a kid in the Beaumont area. Especially with the big mid 80’s layoffs. “Do you want to just be a refinery guy? Dependent on big companies with no other options?”

That was the sentiment in my area. Don’t come at me oil and gas guys. I lived it. It happened to me as a kid.

It’s already been brought up. There are many levels of blue collar. There are the coal mining like jobs of the world where “it’s a living” but you feel bad for the people. And there are plumbers and mechanics. I don’t weep for those guys when handing them my money for a 45 minute job.

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I thought most of the big boys had done away with the degree requirement?

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always supply and demand, peak demand right now and qualified pilot pool drying up so they back off the degree requirement, but when things get back to "normal" it will be reinstated, which is exactly why you should be banging on the doors of AA, Dal, UAL, and FedEx

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Not uncommon to make close to a $100k pretty quick in many blue collar jobs like plumbing, HVAC, electrical.

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It's actually very uncommon, not impossible, but definitely uncommon. Anyone that argues differently has no interest in being honest.

Trades, especially skilled trades, are fine. But this board's fascination with acting like they are better than going to college is asinine. The work is hard, both mentally and physically and often times more susceptible to economic conditions.

Skilled tradesman making a lot of money arent making money being a skilled tradesman, they're making money being a business owner. I could hire a dozen plumbers to work for me for $18 an hour and make just as much as the plumber that started at that $18 an hour that now owns the business and I never had to roll around in shite to get there.

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Control room operators make 117,000 before they work a minute of overtime at certain plants. LNG employees in the LC area are starting out in the 120s to 130s fresh out of Sowela (with 0 overtime).

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How many of these jobs are available with out a good amount of experience? I could say, just go start a business and you can be a millionaire by the time you are 25. It's an unrealistic statement

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How many of these jobs are available with out a good amount of experience?

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Well it’s a specific niche to SWLA, but it’s easy to get on with all the new construction, especially now that the boomers are starting to leave. I have a buddy that is pretty high up at either the largest or second largest plant in LC and they’re hiring 73 guys starting out at $44 per hour in February

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Control room operators

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How many of these jobs are open or even exist?

This board has never been one to understand exception v the rule

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There are no "evenings and weekends" for those people who really make money in skilled trades.

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Not that much different than a lot of professional jobs. Billing hours is essentially being a glorified hourly worker

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You can easily make 6 figures driving a truck, a supervisor at a plant, farm manager, plumber, contractor, electrician, mechanic.

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You can but most people doing those jobs don’t.

Typically each unit will have 4 or 5. I’d guess ~750 within an hour of Lake Charles, ~400 within an hour of BR, and ~600 in the SETX area. Maybe another 100 in the SELA area.

Not being sarcastic, but how many attorneys would you say make 150k+ in the LC area? I don’t know, but I think it would be fewer.

I’ll say the business owners pulling in 200k+ is well overblown on this board. However, I think if more intelligent people were sent towards trades, you’d see more successful businesses.

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What does a brand new Southern U attorney make at the public defenders office or with some trashy injury attorney? Are they working at most 40 hours per week?

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Where did I argue LA had an under-supply of attorneys?

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How about someone that graduated with a marketing degree from ULL? What is their typical starting salary?

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I specifically said that operators can make bank. In no way do they get "evenings and weekends" in the typical sense. And operators are like the creme de la creme of skilled labor. There aren't that many openings available, typically. LC is also a huge outlier for that specific argument.

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Also, if you're an employee, you have a literal limit to what you can make. Sure you can make $100k+, but it's the same issue with being an operator. You're going to work a fricking shite ton. The electricians, welders, etc. that make real money live in a travel caravan and are on the road 300+ days/ year.

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I know an electrician that never leave GBR and makes $100k plus. He is self employed and cannot even do all the work offered to him.