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What Would Have Been Better: DisneySea USA or WestCOT?

Posted on 8/6/15 at 3:07 pm
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 8/6/15 at 3:07 pm
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WestCOT was a planned second theme park for the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim, California. It was essentially a replica of EPCOT Center at the Walt Disney World Resort in Lake Buena Vista, Florida, and would have been dedicated to the celebration of human achievement, namely technological innovation and international culture. The park would have been represented by SpaceStation Earth, a larger version of the geodesic sphere Spaceship Earth featured at EPCOT Center.


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Tokyo DisneySea has an overall nautical exploration theme to it. The idea for the park can be traced to a proposal to build a second theme park in Southern California called "Port Disney" in Long Beach, California, with the RMS Queen Mary as the main attraction .[5] However the idea was scrapped after the company endured financial trouble with the Euro Disney project. Later the idea was passed on to the Oriental Land Company to expand their resort. Unlike Tokyo Disneyland, the overall intention was to create a more adult-themed park, including faster, scarier rides and shows designed more for an older audience. By the time Tokyo DisneySea opened in 2001, its concepts and designs had been in development at Walt Disney Imagineering for well over 20 years.


I'd have to go with DisneySea. I watched a documentary on it and it's beautiful. California Adventure ultimately took the place of WestCOT. I am intrigued by the gold Spacestation Earth, however.

This post was edited on 8/6/15 at 3:10 pm
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/6/15 at 3:18 pm to
EPCOT is so overrated. Much rather DisneySea
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 8/6/15 at 3:20 pm to
I don't see how an adult could enjoy a Disney park. It has been a miserable experience every time I have gone.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
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Posted on 8/6/15 at 3:22 pm to
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I don't see how an adult could enjoy a Disney park. It has been a miserable experience every time I have gone.



Ding! I have small kids. I have been three times in recent years. Every time I want to stab myself with a dull, rusty knife. Can't wait to move on to other places.
Posted by OneMoreTime
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Posted on 8/6/15 at 3:32 pm to
I just went to Disneyland last week. Had a blast.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/6/15 at 3:36 pm to
I can just think of better places to go that have far more to offer for the same amount of money. Even as a kid, I never understood the fascination of going to Disney World.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 8/6/15 at 3:38 pm to
The people that go to Disney every year need to get a life but once every five years is no big deal.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/6/15 at 3:43 pm to
Ahhhhhh, wouldn't be an OT Disney thread without all the hardasses that show everyone how miserable of a human being they are by saying how terrible it is.
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 8/6/15 at 3:51 pm to
The problem with this comparison is that I seriously doubt Port Disney would have ended up like Tokyo DisneySea has. Most people that have been to Tokyo have declared DisneySea to be the best Disney park in the world. Management at The Oriental Land Company has to get a lot of the credit. That's definitely not the same management that was in California at the same time. Port Disney more than likely would have had the same issues that California Adventure faces when it first opened. They would have cut corners and tried to save as much money as possible. I fear that may have been the fate for WestCOT as well. But the plans and concepts for WestCOT look incredible.

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World Showcase

WestCOT’s World Showcase would have been different than EPCOT’s. Instead of representing individual countries, WestCOT would have grouped nations by regions. World Showcase would have been a representation of the four corners of the world. The four pavilions would have been The Americas, Europe, Asia, and Africa. World Showcase would have also been home to WestCOT’s signature attraction, The River of Time. At that time, it would have been the longest ride in Disney history. Guests would have sailed around the World Showcase on a world cruise while audio animatronics scenes would depict cultural and evolutionary stories of theworld’s civilizations. The entire loop around the “world” would have taken about 45 minutes. Guests would have been able to board at any of five ports, with the trip between ports taking about 9 minutes.



Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 8/6/15 at 3:55 pm to
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I don't see how an adult could enjoy a Disney park. It has been a miserable experience every time I have gone.



I think only miserable people could be miserable there. I mean really how is it miserable? Unless you went during a really hot crowded day.,
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 8/6/15 at 3:56 pm to
They really need to make a new theme park in the USA. They made 3 from 89-01 but nothing in the 14 years since. They have room for about 4 more parks in Orlando.
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 8/6/15 at 4:04 pm to
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They really need to make a new theme park in the USA. They made 3 from 89-01 but nothing in the 14 years since. They have room for about 4 more parks in Orlando.

Just because they have room, doesn't mean they should. There is much improvement that needs to happen in EPCOT. Animal Kingdom is getting its expansion and will be open longer hours afterwards and Hollywood Studios is about to get a new name and, basically, become a brand new park complete with a Star Wars land and expansion of the Pixas presence there.
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
3950 posts
Posted on 8/6/15 at 4:09 pm to
Hollywood studios will be a virtually new park when they finish with it. Disney is about to spend nearly 3 billion in renovation/reconstruction there. The only things staying the same are Rock and Rollercoaster, Tower of Terror, Great Movie Ride, and Toy Story.
This post was edited on 8/6/15 at 4:11 pm
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 8/6/15 at 4:11 pm to
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The only things staying the same are Rock and Rollercoaster, Tower of Terror, Great Movie Ride, and Toy Story.

And Star Tours
Posted by Wally Sparks
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Posted on 8/6/15 at 4:13 pm to
DisneySea
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 8/6/15 at 4:26 pm to
I am sad that MGM Studios is moving away from the Hollywood motif. I like that Hollywood noir era. I miss the studio tour when they actually filmed shows there like the Mickey Mouse Club and Golden Girls. Whatever happened to the rumored villains theme park? BTW, I just read an article stating that Disneyland bought more $60 million worth of land to expand.

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This post was edited on 8/6/15 at 4:33 pm
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 8/6/15 at 4:42 pm to
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Whatever happened to the rumored villains theme park?

I mean,it was a rumor. Never confirmed. Imagineers throw out ideas all of the time. I'm sure if there was one actually proposed, it's sitting in a file somewhere.

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BTW, I just read an article stating that Disneyland bought more $60 million worth of land to expand.

Well, it's all speculation as to what they're going to do with the land. As it stands now, I don't see those parcels of property being enough to create a full-blown third gate in Anaheim....unless it's a water park.



One rumor out there right now is that the new land will be "backstage" facilities to replace some that are rumored to be going away. Recently, the rumor floating around is that Toontown at Disneyland will be closing to make way for a Star Wars Land there which would encompass Toontown and the backstage areas there.

This post was edited on 8/6/15 at 4:48 pm
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 8/6/15 at 6:04 pm to
Thanks for the info.
Posted by Chair
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/6/15 at 7:27 pm to
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Unless you went during a really hot crowded day.,


Wouldn't this be like half the year?
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 8/6/15 at 7:34 pm to
I went in February and the weather was perfect. Mid 60s. It was surprising not as crowded as I expected despite many holidays that week (President's Day, Valentine's Day, Mardi Gras, Disney Marathon).
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