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What Exactly Does Kratom Do? Why is it outlawed in a few states, but legal in most?

Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:21 am
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
1944 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:21 am
Apparently, it’s illegal as frick here in AL, but a gas station near me that is just inside GA has a ton of bags of the stuff for sale.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28625 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:22 am to
It's like an opiod without being one, I think. Same buzz.
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
1429 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:23 am to
I see people everyday highly addicted to it. Not good.

Like the last poster said, similar to opiates.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35425 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:25 am to
The simplest way to put it is Big Pharma hates viable alternatives that won't get you hooked on to their opioids.
Posted by adhd
mandeville, la.
Member since Jun 2008
510 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:31 am to
Kratom is addicting
Posted by jiffyjohnson
1226 miles from Death Valley
Member since Nov 2011
5007 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:35 am to
is it like legal weed they used to sell at gas stations? or a pill or what?
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 11:35 am
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5713 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:36 am to
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Kratom: Unsafe and ineffective
Users swear by kratom for mood enhancement and fatigue reduction, but safety issues and questions about its effectiveness abound.

If you read health news or visit vitamin stores, you may have heard about kratom, a supplement that is sold as an energy booster, mood enhancer, pain reliever and antidote for opioid withdrawal. However, the truth about kratom is more complicated, and the safety problems related to its use are concerning.

Kratom is an herbal extract that comes from the leaves of an evergreen tree (Mitragyna speciosa) grown in Southeast Asia. Kratom leaves can be chewed, and dry kratom can be swallowed or brewed. Kratom extract can be used to make a liquid product. The liquid form is often marketed as a treatment for muscle pain, or to suppress appetite and stop cramps and diarrhea. Kratom is also sold as a treatment for panic attacks.

Kratom is believed to act on opioid receptors. At low doses, kratom acts as a stimulant, making users feel more energetic. At higher doses, it reduces pain and may bring on euphoria. At very high doses, it acts as a sedative, making users quiet and perhaps sleepy. Some people who practice Asian traditional medicine consider kratom to be a substitute for opium.

Some people take kratom to avoid the symptoms of opioid withdrawal and because kratom may be bought more easily than prescription drugs.

Kratom is also used at music festivals and in other recreational settings...

Poison control centers in the United States received about 1,800 reports involving use of kratom from 2011 through 2017, including reports of death. About half of these exposures resulted in serious negative outcomes such as seizures and high blood pressure.

… Kratom is not currently regulated in the United States, and federal agencies are taking action to combat false claims about kratom.


https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/consumer-health/in-depth/kratom/art-20402171

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Kratom is one of those plants that you might assume is a safer, natural alternative to other drugs. But don’t be fooled: There’s a dark side to kratom-derived pills, powders and teas.

Q. What is kratom?
A. Kratom (Mitragyna speciosa) is a tree in the coffee family. It’s found in Southeast Asia and Africa. Traditionally, people have:

Chewed kratom leaves.
Made kratom tea to fight tiredness and improve productivity.
Used kratom as medicine.
Substituted kratom for opium.
Used kratom during religious ceremonies.

Q: Why do people use kratom?
A: Precisely because kratom interacts with the brain’s opioid receptors, some people use it to relieve pain or overcome opioid addiction. Medical communities now try to shy away from opioid use for pain, so many patients who previously relied on them no longer can. Scrambling to find alternatives, some people turn to kratom, which is a compelling replacement because it has similar pain-relieving effects.

People tend (however incorrectly) to think that kratom is safe because it’s “natural.” It’s also legal and easily obtainable in many states — without the stigma attached to narcotics.

… Don’t let the fact that kratom is “natural” trick you into thinking it’s safe. In fact, kratom’s potential for severe side effects outweigh its potential benefits — and in extreme cases, kratom has even caused death.

Q: Is kratom legal?
A: The U.S. Food and Drug and Administration (FDA) has warned consumers about the dangers of using kratom. And as of mid-2021, kratom is illegal in six states:

Alabama.
Arkansas.
Indiana.
Rhode Island.
Vermont.
Wisconsin.

In some states, including California, Colorado, Florida and Mississippi, kratom is legal under state law but banned or controlled in some individual cities, towns and counties. In other states, various kratom legislation is still pending.



https://health.clevelandclinic.org/what-is-kratom/

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/public-health-focus/fda-and-kratom
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5713 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:37 am to
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Apparently, it’s illegal as frick here in AL, but a gas station near me that is just inside GA has a ton of bags of the stuff for sale.


Georgia has turned into a Blue state…
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55486 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:42 am to
I keep some in the house for when I want to get faded and fall asleep. A lot of people develop dependency on it, though, just as a replacement for painkillers. Not sure of the effects of long term chronic usage.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117714 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:42 am to
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At low doses, kratom acts as a stimulant,



Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90635 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:43 am to
Like anything you shouldn’t take too much of it or all the time.

It does work to improve your mood and energy in small doses. I take some every now and then when I just feel exhausted or worn out from work. Just don’t be dependent on it, or if you have addictive personality I would just steer clear of it.

It seems perfectly safe though as long as you use moderation
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86495 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:43 am to
quote:

it’s illegal as frick here in AL, but a gas station near me that is just inside GA has a ton of bags of the stuff for sale.


yep, definitely illegal here. I always buy a bottle when I go back to GA though. Last time I bought a 500 count though so I'm good for a while. I wouldn't buy from a gas station, just like many other products you'll likely find better higher quality at actual stores that sell that type of thing opposed to the register at your nearest Shell station.

As for what it does, there's multiple strains that do different things. White vein is very much an upper and is comprable to geeking a bit. The red vein is a "downer". The green is a mix of both and what I always use. It gives a mild eurphoric feeling along wtih energy.

the best way I can describe the green is almost like a super version of a massive coffee. You're definitely more energeized and pepped up. You feel warmer inside. You'll talk more and be productive. You just feel really good in geeneral overall. It's not quite like an adderrall or blow although some of the effects may be similar, but the best part is no nbad side effects. There isn't a come down, there's no hangover or headache. Eventaully aftera few hours it just wears off and you're back to normal.

I take green borneo capsules 3-4 times a week and have for over a year now. Aboslutely love it.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 11:46 am
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55486 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:46 am to
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the best way I can describe the green is almost like a super version of a massive coffee


On some do-nothing days, I'll mix the red powder in with my coffee grounds in the French press. Pretty damn good. I guess that's what the white is for, though.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90635 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:47 am to
The best thing about it is you don’t have to buy it off the street and worry about fentanyl
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86495 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:48 am to
I've taken the reds a few times and they just don't really seem to do anythning for me. Granted I'm a pussy when it comes to dosage so I don't take very many, if I upped my intake maybe it'd be different.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86495 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:51 am to
Where in AL are you located?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90635 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:51 am to
I mix a tsp of the white vein with a glass of water and down it before going out to the bar. Gives a nice energy boost and good feeling for socializing
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
3319 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 12:00 pm to
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What Exactly Does Kratom Do?


I’ll tell you what it does: it sponsors all of my favorite podcasts

Everything in moderation. It’s just that most people can’t be moderate.
Posted by LazarusJohnson
Member since Mar 2022
142 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 12:00 pm to
LINK

Here's an NIH published paper saying Kratom is a 1000x times less deadly than opioids.

It's about the money, always is.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 12:02 pm
Posted by jstew311
Grant Parish Meth Lab
Member since Dec 2005
853 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 12:19 pm to
My wife works in the NICU and said the withdraws the babies go through with Kratom is worse than any street drug.
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