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What a neighborhood sidewalk debate says about Baton Rouge

Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:19 pm
Posted by tss22h8
30.4 N 90.9 W
Member since Jan 2007
18657 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:19 pm
BR Business Report (Stephanie Riegel)
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In surveys and public forums Baton Rougeans routinely say they want connectivity, sidewalks, bike paths, wider and better roads, and an end to traffic and gridlock.

“But we don’t want to pay higher taxes to fund new infrastructure projects,” Riegel says. “We’re not willing to give up frontage on our property to allow for construction of a sidewalk, bike lane or wider street. And we definitely don’t want random strangers strolling, cycling or driving through our quiet little neighborhood, potentially threatening the value of our homes and diminishing our sense of security. Can we realistically expect to be a progressive community with such a provincial mindset?”
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43859 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:21 pm to
Obviously solution: double decker streets.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:21 pm to
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we definitely don’t want random strangers strolling, cycling or driving through our quiet little neighborhood


This is a legit concern.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:22 pm to
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Can we realistically expect to be a progressive community with such a provincial mindset?”


Could you be a little more condescending, Stephanie?
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:22 pm to
idk but my neighborhood already has a sidewalk.

word of advice when house shopping...if the neighborhood doesnt have sidewalk....its probably trashy
Posted by AintBigButItsPretty
Member since Mar 2011
942 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:22 pm to
I don't want to be a progressive community. Use my existing tax dollars more efficiently for these limited use projects. Leisure paths should be on public property or private land designated for it, not my neighborhood.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35213 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:24 pm to
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But we don’t want to pay higher taxes to fund new infrastructure projects,


Because we believe our city taxes are already misused. Why would we want to give more?
Posted by SECretariat
Member since Jun 2015
339 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:25 pm to
When I first moved to Baton Rouge, I couldn't believe how few sidewalks there were. The only thing I think that can explain it is that most of the people grew up not having sidewalks so it's just normal to them. Seeing vehicles swerving around families walking down Hyacinth in Southdowns is crazy. They just repaved that entire street like 7 years ago and still didn't think to add a sidewalk for families walking to the lakes.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:27 pm to
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I don't want to be a progressive community.


This is the most ridiculous buzzword in the modern leftist vernacular today
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18913 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:28 pm to
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FuturEBR, the city’s land use plan adopted in 2011, tried to address some of the problems planners have long recognized are caused by gated communities—traffic congestion, economic segregation, loss of a sense of community—by calling for greater connectivity in new subdivisions. But there hasn’t been any serious move to limit or ban communities with limited access, and there is clearly no political will to do so.


She is clearly one of those Progs who thinks SHE knows BETTER what to do with your property than you do. These folks actually think it is OK to tell you what you can or can't do to be ALLOWED to build your home in a certain spot that you purchased. Same folks that want to force developers to put projects ("affordable housing") in the midst of anything nice they develop.
Posted by randybobandy
NOLA
Member since Mar 2015
1909 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:33 pm to
We don't live in a sleepy village of 10,000 residents who can bike everywhere. Many travel several miles to work/school and choose to live in the suburbs due to safety, property values, quality education for children, and other reasons. Biking 15-20 miles one way in south Louisiana will not ever happen. High humidity, daily rains in the summer months and long commutes will render these expensive bike paths almost useless. At least the treehuggers will feel "progressive" while they drive their BMW's around.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32879 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:35 pm to
St. George will not only be crime-free, but its infrastructure will consist of wide lane streets, bike lanes, and nature paths.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:36 pm to
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She is clearly one of those Progs who thinks SHE knows BETTER what to do with your property than you do.

Absolutely. Look, I understand that sometimes you have to take control of a servitude for the greater good of the community, i.e. widening roads. However, to pass off one's concern for the impact to their property value as a "provincial attitude" is about as dismissive and condescending as you can get. This is why these people are becoming hated more and more everyday.

The biggest issue with modern "progressivism" is that it has no foundation in anything other than the group think of the time and collectivism which is why it's doomed for failure and will inevitably consume itself.
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:38 pm to
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Biking 15-20 miles one way in south Louisiana will not ever happen. High humidity, daily rains in the summer months and long commutes will render these expensive bike paths almost useless. 

Exactly. We don't need any more damn bike baths. Go find a decent neighborhood to ride in if you want to ride for exercise. Hardly anyone in BR uses a bike for transportation
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85009 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:40 pm to
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problems planners have long recognized are caused by gated communities


quote:

economic segregation, loss of a sense of community


Umm, I'm pretty sure this is precisely what people are paying for in a gated community.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:45 pm to
Stephanie has a point, black people are scary. Glad someone in BR has the courage to raise this serious issue.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83590 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:49 pm to
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In surveys and public forums Baton Rougeans routinely say they want connectivity, sidewalks, bike paths, wider and better roads, and an end to traffic and gridlock.



Younger generations want this.

The old guard doesn't. Until the old people in power die off, BR will just have to accept this. It's like this in most small to mid sized towns in the South.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:51 pm to
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“We’re not willing to give up frontage on our property to allow for construction of a sidewalk, bike lane or wider street.


Only solution is wider lanes

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:53 pm to
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Younger generations want this.

The old guard doesn't. Until the old people in power die off, BR will just have to accept this. It's like this in most small to mid sized towns in the South.

I think all ages are begging for a traffic solution and that should be the #1 focus, not bike paths.

The interstate is 95% of the problem yet all we've been focusing on is surface streets. All we have to show for the interstate is 30 years worth of studies and millions in wasted public funds.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48857 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:57 pm to
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Younger generations want this.

The old guard doesn't. Until the old people in power die off, BR will just have to accept this. It's like this in most small to mid sized towns in the South.


It's not the older generation screaming on here about paying for anything. The younger generation wants it sure but they don't want to pay for it. How many old people do you think are posting here against new roads? I'm old and I support roads, bike paths and connectivity simply for traffic management. Old people will support it, old people can afford it and old people will pay for it. Young people won't. And a large sum of complainers on this board don't even live in the parish.
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