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re: Watch: Stig versus the Ford Hennessey VelociRaptor 600

Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:29 pm to
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Why do you feel the need to elaborate. That is all understood from the get go.


You asked the question. Ford doesn't make the Velociraptor. So even now while you're claiming you get it and knew from the get go, you're wrong.

Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:30 pm to
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GTFO. The 911 is a timeless classic.


Never said it wasn't, but from a design standpoint, it's pretty boring.


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It's elegant in a way a Corvette never will be.


Most muscle cars aren't designed to be elegant.
Posted by Croacka
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:30 pm to
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it sounds like a white trash coonass named it



It's a fricking ford truck

Who do you think their target market is?


Maybe you should get a Toyota Avalon if you want a pretty name or something
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:31 pm to
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dat transmission whine


I thought that was the supercharger
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:31 pm to
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Good God. Are they really that snobby about American cars?


I think it is more about the history of a car. For instance, the Raptor conjures certain images of drivers as does an Austin Mini. Corvette recently as tried to be a budget supercar without addressing some issues. This car is a good attempt to do that.

Compare it to the Dodge Viper. Dodge just makes it a huge engine in a small car. Unapologetic about brute force and redneck engineering.
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:31 pm to
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You asked the question. Ford doesn't make the Velociraptor. So even now while you're claiming you get it and knew from the get go, you're wrong.


But they make the Raptor, which I already knew, and I still think soudns pretty stupid. It's pretty obvious that Hennessey renamed it to give it that extra "cool factor". Ford making the vehicle and then Hennessey doing aftermarket work to it then renaming it is obviously how they came to the overall name, which I think sounds stupid. This isnt that hard. Nothing to see here.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:31 pm to
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Never said it wasn't, but from a design standpoint, it's pretty boring.


I disagree completely, but that's very subjective. I think your opinion the minority though.

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Most muscle cars aren't designed to be elegant.


Corvette has never been a muscle car.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:32 pm to
Whatever floats your boat buddy.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:35 pm to
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I disagree completely, but that's very subjective. I think your opinion the minority though.


It's usually the same basic design for a decade that gets slightly tweaked once a year. I'm not criticizing the overall design but the lack of imagination. Of course, 911 enthusiasts hate change so I guess that's why the design team can't step out on a limb. Seems like the biggest complaints about new 911's is that they're not the old 911.

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Corvette has never been a muscle car.


Uh...
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:40 pm to
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It's usually the same basic design for a decade that gets slightly tweaked once a year. I'm not criticizing the overall design but the lack of imagination. Of course, 911 enthusiasts hate change so I guess that's why the design team can't step out on a limb. Seems like the biggest complaints about new 911's is that they're not the old 911.


You say lack of imagination, I say pretty much best car design ever. It's an almost universally loved car and has been that way since it came out. There is no reason to rethink it. You know exactly what it is the second you see it no matter what year 911 you're looking at.

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Uh...


Never has been.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:42 pm to
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Never has been.


I think lately it has suffered from not wanting to be a muscle car while living up to being one.

Maybe it has to do with keeping prices low and not really doing a suspension upgrade.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:43 pm to
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You say lack of imagination, I say pretty much best car design ever. It's an almost universally loved car and has been that way since it came out. There is no reason to rethink it. You know exactly what it is the second you see it no matter what year 911 you're looking a


I get it.

I would love to own one and I like the way they look (not bashing it at all), but it's dull from a year to year standpoint.


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Never has been


Please classify it.

I can see the the Z06 and ZR1 not being muscle cars.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:43 pm to
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I think lately it has suffered from not wanting to be a muscle car while living up to being one.

Maybe it has to do with keeping prices low and not really doing a suspension upgra


This was my train of thought.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:46 pm to
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Please classify it.


It's a sports car, not a muscle car. There has always been that distinction. When someone says muscle car, they are talking about 2+2, big engine, fast in a straight line cars like the Camaro, Mustang, Charger (talking old school here), etc. The Corvette was never designed to be that, and has never been refereed to as such.
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:53 pm to
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 12:55 pm
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:59 pm to
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Good God. Are they really that snobby about American cars?


I can understand it. I don't even like being in the passenger seat of a Vette, much less behind the wheel.
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