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Was Reddit ever not a series of echo chambers?

Posted on 3/30/23 at 11:58 am
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 11:58 am
I didn't use Reddit back in the early days of the internet, but I think it's probably one of my least favorite websites now and I recently added it to the bin of websites I'll try to never frequent along with various mainstream social media platforms. From a cursory glance, most of the popular subreddits seem to suffer from a quality perspective because the users seem to succumb to groupthink, enjoy censorship of alternate perspectives to whatever the consensus of the subreddit is, lack the use of critical thinking when putting forward responses and instead opting for recycled jokes, and easily succumb to emotional and infantile responses when confronted with even slight deviations out of the norm.

Some of these traits I do observe here and elsewhere on the internet, and it makes me wonder to what extent this is a symptom of the internet at large; but I think Reddit amplifies this tendency and makes it worse than alternatives through policies such as:

(1) The upvote/downvote system hiding posts that are sufficiently downvoted essentially promoting censorship via the userbase

(2) An unpaid moderation staff that seem generally quick on the trigger to delete posts and ban users for failing to conform.

I could go on, but I'll leave at it this. Reddit seemed to be a great place on its surface to go get specific information and have a dialogue about niche subjects. However, it is mostly a terrible place to have dialogue. I suspect the Reddit model is to blame for amplifying groupthink, but I'm curious if this model ever actually worked. For people who frequented Reddit in its early days, was it always like this or is this a newer phenomena?
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27190 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:00 pm to
r/The_Donald was the GOAT

FatPeopleHate was fantastic as well
Posted by Antib551
Houma, LA
Member since Dec 2018
919 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:01 pm to
Reddit is for porn, and only porn.

Are there other subreddits?
Posted by JackaReaux
BR
Member since Feb 2017
724 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:01 pm to
Joined in 2015. It was an echo chamber then. It’s great for niche topics tho.

ETA: apparently I joined in 2011. frick, what year is it? Where am I?
This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 12:04 pm
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34898 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:03 pm to
It’s been an echo chamber for as long as I can remember

You can have disagreements under a certain umbrella, but go too far and you’re done.

I feel like It’s become wayyy too easy for people to curate their information (not just on Reddit but everywhere) to suit their values and I think that’s a huge reason people are so dug in to their positions now.
Posted by Tusksup
Sheridan, AR
Member since Feb 2023
1520 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:03 pm to
Why would anyone go there...








Other than for porn
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:04 pm to
Reddit is the message boards of the Revolution, comrade. It attracts a certain type of person.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
7729 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:05 pm to
It used to be the best place on the internet. Everything changed leading up to the 2016 election. Overnight it turned into a place of censorship and unlimited shills.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422465 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:05 pm to
the up/down vote function created that, which is why I never actively use reddit. It's good as a reference material, but impossible for me to actively use
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:05 pm to
Two things

quote:

1) The upvote/downvote system hiding posts that are sufficiently downvoted essentially promoting censorship via the userbase


One, you can easily choose to sort by new

Two, you’re currently posting on an echo chamber
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71402 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:05 pm to
It's very good for niche hobbies, but it's left of Mao for the most part.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422465 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

I feel like It’s become wayyy too easy for people to curate their information (not just on Reddit but everywhere) to suit their values and I think that’s a huge reason people are so dug in to their positions now.

Yes that is a major variable in the polarization for sure
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:06 pm to
Joined in 2011 and it was better then.

Reddit has a major problem with delusional moderators.

What used to be funny or interesting subreddits are now dominated by 15 year old European wannabe socialists. If the average age of posters on this site is 30-40 year olds the average age on Reddit is probably 15-20 year olds.

If you wanna see titties it’s still great though
This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 12:07 pm
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
17241 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

(1) The upvote/downvote system hiding posts that are sufficiently downvoted essentially promoting censorship via the userbase


You can get around this by sorting it differently. You can sort by "old" or "new" to have posts in sequential order. Or you can sort by "controversial" which brings the most downvoted posts to the top.

quote:

(2) An unpaid moderation staff that seem generally quick on the trigger to delete posts and ban users for failing to conform.


This is the bigger issue. Different subreddits have varying degrees of moderation so there are still some relatively lax subs out there. The subs for the sports leagues suck arse in this regard
This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 12:07 pm
Posted by YeastExtract
Member since Jul 2021
252 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:06 pm to
The top thread on r/nola is a tranny rally. That’s all you really need to know.
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:07 pm to
The Karma system on there is as poisonous as it gets. If you don’t have enough upvotes on your posts you literally CAN NOT POST. Think about what that means!

If your thoughts go against the majority then you’ll be downvoted until you are silenced.

That’s why every sub, no matter how small, is full of loud, narcissistic people.

This is why I love TD. If someone wants to come here and act like a huge liberal they’ll get downvoted and mocked relentlessly… but never silenced.

This is how society ought to work.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15068 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:07 pm to
I use Reddit for certain things. I would never engage in politics on Reddit. It is group think progressive all the time.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:08 pm to
Sometimes I read the political board here and then go to r/Nola just so I can find a middle ground
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

Two, you’re currently posting on an echo chamber



completely acknowledged, and I don't say this without realizing how dire it paints the current state of affairs, but I find this website actually promotes better diversity of thought than almost all of the subreddits I've frequented the last few years.
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2103 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 12:09 pm to
Without Reddit how would we find any of the nubile schoolteachers?

About the only one I still visit occasionally (even if it has lost most of its charm since they raised the bridge) is r/11foot8/
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