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re: Was Adrian Peterson justified in beating up his 4 year old?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:53 pm to IceColdBeer
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:53 pm to IceColdBeer
where are you from? Don't you see all the people talking about picking branches? Context clues, man
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:53 pm to Darth_Vader
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I turned out just fine.
You're alright dude.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:54 pm to 777Tiger
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Posted by 777Tiger who among here had the dreaded walk of fear of having to pick out their own switch?
My grandmother got smart on this. When I messed up, she sent my brother to get it. When he messed up she sent me to get it. She knew we'd pick out as perfect a switch as possible. And when she was done, she'd stick it in a mason jar of water so it would stay limber for days. She had hickories down to an art form.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:55 pm to 777Tiger
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different age, different time, I would have been taken away from my parents and they would have been charged back in the day, they're some of the greatest people in the world and so am I
Many of our ancestors in the South used to own slaves. It was a cultural thing and it was the way they were raised. They were good people though.
It was wrong then and it is wrong now. The same is true for "discipline" that is taken to the level that Peterson used. It is child abuse, and it was child abuse 30-40 years ago. The fact that it used to be accepted is completely irrelevant.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:55 pm to Paige
SoCal, so this obviously a southern thang
No I didnt read the parts about the branches but why is it called "switch"
No I didnt read the parts about the branches but why is it called "switch"
Posted on 9/16/14 at 6:57 pm to JaiEugenesTowel
I question his judgement, just based on the choices that he's made as an adult.
I haven't seen pictures of the child, but right now I'm pretty underwhelmed with AD/AP's parenting skills.
I haven't seen pictures of the child, but right now I'm pretty underwhelmed with AD/AP's parenting skills.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:00 pm to slackster
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The fact that it used to be accepted is completely irrelevant.
the fact that we got over it should be accepted, people should stop trying to re-write history to suit their own own interpretation
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:02 pm to VetteGuy
Check page 2 or 3 for pictures.
Keep in mind, these are from 4-5 days later, and they are pictures of the FRONT of his thighs. He was also struck in the scrotum and has defensive wounds on his hands. Peterson struck his child 10-15 times by his own admission.
Do you know how hard you have to hit someone with a switch for the end of it to come around and hit you in the nuts? Now consider hitting a 4 year old that hard 10-15 times.
On no planet, at no time in history, should this abuse be accepted. It isn't discipline. It is disgusting.
Oh, and FWIW, I'm not against corporal punishment.
Keep in mind, these are from 4-5 days later, and they are pictures of the FRONT of his thighs. He was also struck in the scrotum and has defensive wounds on his hands. Peterson struck his child 10-15 times by his own admission.
Do you know how hard you have to hit someone with a switch for the end of it to come around and hit you in the nuts? Now consider hitting a 4 year old that hard 10-15 times.
On no planet, at no time in history, should this abuse be accepted. It isn't discipline. It is disgusting.
Oh, and FWIW, I'm not against corporal punishment.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:04 pm to slackster
Oh my word... Lame!
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:04 pm to 777Tiger
Thanks.
I've seen the pics of this kid's injuries and all I can say is if folks could see the bloody welts me and my brother sported on our legs pretty much non stop through the 70's and into the early 80's, they'd lose their mind.
I've seen the pics of this kid's injuries and all I can say is if folks could see the bloody welts me and my brother sported on our legs pretty much non stop through the 70's and into the early 80's, they'd lose their mind.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:05 pm to 777Tiger
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the fact that we got over it should be accepted, people should stop trying to re-write history to suit their own own interpretation
Huh?
Look, I'm sure your parents were good people and you turned out to be a good person, but we should embrace the progress we've made in the last 20-30 years. Parents should discipline their children, and they should do it consistently. That is most important.
If you have to hit a 4 year old 10-15 times with a switch, it should be obvious that your style of parenting is failing miserably.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:05 pm to slackster
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It was wrong then and it is wrong now.
I think people who argue ANYTHING on earth with "in my day..." are fricking retarded and their opinion is invalidated immediately. Because something has happened before does not make it right. Lots of people did lots of shitty things as parents. Hell, lots of people did shitty things in all aspects of life.
"I turned out fine" -- People who have been abused, raped, molested, starved, etc. have turned out fine. That is not an indicator of whether something is the right decision.
I haven't kept up with this story. I have no idea what the basis for this is. If he just popped his kid on the arm or something, it's not that big of a deal to me. If he left marks on his toddler, it's a bigger deal.
I don't even have kids and I know that 4 years old is insanely young. They haven't even gone to kindergarten at that age.
I was spanked on the rare occasion that I got in big trouble. And I remember being terrified for Dad to get home. And never once in my life did I have bruises, scratches, scars, marks, etc. from it. You shouldn't need to leave marks on your kid to scare them.
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Check page 2 or 3 for pictures.
Keep in mind, these are from 4-5 days later, and they are pictures of the FRONT of his thighs. He was also struck in the scrotum and has defensive wounds on his hands. Peterson struck his child 10-15 times by his own admission.
Do you know how hard you have to hit someone with a switch for the end of it to come around and hit you in the nuts? Now consider hitting a 4 year old that hard 10-15 times.
On no planet, at no time in history, should this abuse be accepted. It isn't discipline. It is disgusting.
Wow. Thank you for this post.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:07 pm to Darth_Vader
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if folks could see the bloody welts me and my brother sported on our legs pretty much non stop through the 70's and into the early 80's, they'd lose their mind.
Exhibit A that your parents style of discipline wasn't working whatsoever.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:08 pm to slackster
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I'm sure your parents were good people and you turned out to be a good person, but we should embrace the progress we've made in the last 20-30 years.
Exactly. If we never adapted to the way the world changes, we'd be a bunch of idiots.
Just like our parents had to adapt to things like racism not being okay and gender equality and etc., we have to adapt to changes as well.
Your parents beat you. Great. You're still "normal". Great. But in today's world, it's not as acceptable.. and definitely not to a child who can't even read/write yet.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:09 pm to slackster
Yeah, he sucks as a "father". He has no clue how to be a parent, I don't GAS if he can carry a football. He's not even that great at that, the butterfingered POS.
Eff him.
Eff him.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:10 pm to slackster
So you got in trouble once at I'm guessing a very early age and never got in trouble again at all???
Dumbass
Dumbass
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:27 pm to Darth_Vader
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So you got in trouble once at I'm guessing a very early age and never got in trouble again at all???
Dumbass
See, this is the problem. People have a hard time acknowledging that Peterson crossed the line and ventured well into child abuse territory. The reason they have such a problem is because to rightfully criticize Peterson, they have to indirectly criticize their parents and/or grandparents.
Look, what happened to you was an accepted method of "discipline" for years, but we've progressed as a society and that kind of behavior is ancient. There are better and more effective ways to discipline your children than trying to beat the bad out of them.
If you'd like to spank them, that is fine, but you need to know where the line is, and you should accept the consequences of crossing that line. Do not expect to fall back on the way you were raised as an excuse.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:35 pm to slackster
Bro, earlier you equated spanking to slavery. You may have been speaking only of Peterson, but it read as all spanking to me.
I respectfully disagree it that's your position.
And to the Louisiana lady... If you wait until your kids are in kindergarten to straighten them out, you've lost them.
Peterson obviously went to far.
I respectfully disagree it that's your position.
And to the Louisiana lady... If you wait until your kids are in kindergarten to straighten them out, you've lost them.
Peterson obviously went to far.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:36 pm to slackster
I never defended Peterson. I just took exception to you insulting my dead grandmother and how she raised me. Perhaps had your parents had better parenting skills they'd have made you apply yourself more at learning reading comprehension.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:44 pm to tgrbaitn08
my nephew is 4. he's tiny. hitting him util blood is drawn would be the act of a sick individual
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