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re: Walgreens pharmacist denies pregnant woman miscarriage medication over his ethical beliefs

Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:16 am to
Posted by JamalSanders
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Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:16 am to
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Maybe they're should be a law against pharmacists playing doctor and deciding on their own whether someone actually needs the medicine they've been prescribed


That is the stupidest thing I'll read all day. Pharmacists spend their med school learning about how the body reacts to different medications, doc in a box just prescribes the pills the blond with big cans who took him to lunch sold him on.

Doctors need to make the diagnosis and then let the pharmacist prescribe the medication.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68378 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:20 am to
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Currently, Arizona law allows pharmacies to refuse to process prescriptions for religious or moral reasons. Pharmacists aren't legally obligated to refer customers to another pharmacy.

His right.

Now, in this case it wasn't for a live baby. I wonder if there is more to this story such as it not being communicated that the fetus was dead.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68378 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:23 am to
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That is the stupidest thing I'll read all day
No, this post by you is...
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Doctors need to make the diagnosis and then let the pharmacist prescribe the medication.
How ignorant are you?
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129036 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:24 am to
I agree it’s his right to refuse.

But he should have still respected the woman’s privacy for such a sensitive nature and followed Walgreens policy and referred the prescription to someone else to fill.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:26 am to
As a family that has had to go through this, frick that guy. It's already hard enough for the family. Don't need to have someone pass judgment when they do not truly know what is going on.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 7:38 am
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:28 am to
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And he had no knowledge of why she was given the medicine so he couldn’t have said.


EXACTLY, he isn't a doctor and has no idea why she was prescribed the medicine that her DOCTOR wrote for her. If he wants to pick and choose what meds people take, he should have became a DOCTOR. Pharmacists shouldn't be able to intervene in anyone's meds unless the combination they are prescribed is dangerous.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 7:32 am
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:31 am to
Scruffy (as often) is correct.

I am glad to see the pharmacist has his own set of morals and ethics.
I am glad we don't (yet) live in a society where we are forced to do things against our beliefs.

I am also happy to let society and this woman have her own morals and ethics and she is free to go somewhere else and have her prescription filled. She knows that to be the case.

However, the pharmacist better hope he followed EVERY company protocol to the EXACT letter or he will be fired. It sounds like he did not and will be looking for a job soon.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68378 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:34 am to
The story says he referred it to one 20 minutes away. If he is the only pharmacist at that location at that time it sounds like he followed policy.

We do not know that said anything to her beyond his unwillingness to give it to her. We do not know if he announced to all what it was and was for.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
53082 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:37 am to
First you gay Democrats force us to bake cakes now you want us to murder babies? When does it sfol?
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3586 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:39 am to
the pharmacist needs to take a lesson from other pharmacist that don’t want to fill rx’s for pill heads....just tell them it’s out of stock or the ones you do have are expired.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129036 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:40 am to
That’s a good point. Did the woman become so upset she didn’t even hear that?

She did say she got an email notification from Walgreens after she left the store.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:48 am to
If he followed procedures, he shouldn't be fired for the incident itself. But if he has the right to his beliefs, they have the right to tell everyone what his beliefs are. Don't want to get into the details of our situation, but I know timing was a big deal for the safety of my wife. We had to get back to the doctor, etc.. Having to drive 20 minutes out of the way and then back, all because he thinks his belief is more important than the woman's safety? I would have gone ballistic. So even if it was within protocol, they have a right to let everyone know what this guy believes.
Posted by pussywillows
Member since Dec 2009
5699 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:48 am to
actually, the story says she received an email notification saying her rx was ready to be picked up the night before she went to get it...she went to pick it up, and the pharmacist on duty at that time said he would not give it to her...it was the following day that she was told she could get it at the other location.
Posted by Lsuhack1
Member since Feb 2018
866 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:50 am to
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The story says he referred it to one 20 minutes away. If he is the only pharmacist at that location at that time it sounds like he followed policy. We do not know that said anything to her beyond his unwillingness to give it to her. We do not know if he announced to all what it was and was for.

So many unknowns,
If the story went down as she described it then fire him, if he didn’t make a recommendation to go somewhere else or to refer her to someone else then fire him.
Something tells me this is a lot of grey though.
Woman comes into store to get prescription filled after one of the hardest weeks of her life, guy says he wasn’t going to fill it. What his tone was, where he told her that is all unknowns. But to go immediately and contact the licensing board and try to get legislation passed screams red flags to me. Most red blooded Americans first step would be talk to attorney, second step is sue Walgreens then months later bring up fighting so it can’t happen to anyone else.
I don’t understand contacting the store manager to fill the prescription part, the store manager cannot fill a prescription
Btw: I don’t know her sitauation but man there is no way in hell im letting my wife go to the store in public and fill this prescription. I’m going to handle all of that for her.
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Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:54 am to
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miscarriage medication


wait



wat
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129036 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:54 am to
I’m not going by that article....but what she posted on fb.

She apparently is a friend of a friend of mine on fb. My friend shared her story on her fb wall.

This is her post on fb....


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This post isn’t something I generally do, but last night I experienced something no women should ever have to go thru especially under these circumstances or any other circumstances. I hadn’t planned on telling anyone outside our immediate family but two months we were surprised to find out I was pregnant. After a previous miscarriage the doctor had been monitoring me weekly. Unfortunately on Tuesday we found out the baby’s development had stopped and I ultimately will have a miscarriage. Dr gave me two options D&C or prescription medication. I opted for prescription. Last night I went to pick up my medication at my local Walgreens only to be denied the prescription I need. I stood at the mercy of this pharmacist explaining my situation in front of my 7 year old, and five customers standing behind only to be denied because of his ethical beliefs. I get it we all have our beliefs. But what he failed to understand is this isn’t the situation I had hoped for, this isn’t something I wanted. This is something I have zero control over. He has no idea what its like to want nothing more than to carry a child to full term and be unable to do so. If you have gone thru a miscarriage you know the pain and emotional roller it can be. I left Walgreens in tears, ashamed and feeling humiliated by a man who knows nothing of my struggles but feels it is his right to deny medication prescribed to me by my doctor. I am unsure where Walgreens draws the lines with their pharmacist but does this mean he denies women the right to birth control and morning after pill, and what’s the stance with fertility drugs. I share this story because I wish no other women have to go thru something like this at time when you are vulnerable and already suffering. I am in left in disbelief on how this can happen? How is this okay? I can’t be the only one who has gone thru this. Walgreens Update: 6/23/18- After I walked out of Walgreens Thursday night without my prescription I received email notification that my prescription was ready at location across town. Brian H. ultimately had it transferred to another location that had it in stock after I had left upset. Yesterday morning I went to my see my Dr for his help in making sure that pharmacist at the second location would give it me. I picked up my prescription from that Walgreens with no problems. I called and spoke to store manager who did not seem happy about what had happened. I have contacted Walgreens corporate office. I have filed a complaint with the Arizona Board of Pharmacy. At this time I have done what I can to report the situation. Thank you to those who have shown love and support.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83615 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:57 am to
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wait



wat


It is medicine that helps the body pass the dead tissue.

Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32715 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:58 am to
Damn, if that's all true, that's a really shitty pharmacist.

Just fill the damn bottle. Let the real doctors do the diagnosing. If the baby's heart had stopped, she was going to lose it anyway. She shouldn't have to explain herself to a pharmacist.
Posted by pussywillows
Member since Dec 2009
5699 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:59 am to
on the face of it, that does deviate somewhat from the way it was described in the article...sad situation
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 8:01 am
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
83615 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:59 am to
I'm just trying to understand what beliefs he could have to deny her the medicine, especially after she most certainly explained the situation to him
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