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re: Vinyl plank flooring over concrete
Posted on 6/7/16 at 8:52 pm to stout
Posted on 6/7/16 at 8:52 pm to stout
This is the exact product we purchased.
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Already on that. I'm not worried about him. It's not going in my house and I know I'm not the wealthiest person alive. I'm just looking for some cost-effective flooring I can put down in the dining space for a building we're leasing.
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Already on that. I'm not worried about him. It's not going in my house and I know I'm not the wealthiest person alive. I'm just looking for some cost-effective flooring I can put down in the dining space for a building we're leasing.
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 8:59 pm to GatorBaiter
Have it in my house.
Don't need a barrier
Make sure the floor guy is good and knows what he is doing.
I love it in my house.
Preparation is key and make sure the weather is perfect.
Don't need a barrier
Make sure the floor guy is good and knows what he is doing.
I love it in my house.
Preparation is key and make sure the weather is perfect.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:00 pm to GatorBaiter
I'm in the same boat. I have a commercial building I am moving into and I am ripping up the commercial glue down carpet this weekend. That shite sucks but I plan on renting a few different machines to do the job. I also can't stand the commercial VCT tiles so I am considering Nafco in the kitchen and bathroom if I don't stain.
I am considering patching the slab where needed and putting a skim coat on top then staining it. Not sure yet but I do have a lot of wood planks in storage I could use. Just not sure if I want to mess with that or not.
I am considering patching the slab where needed and putting a skim coat on top then staining it. Not sure yet but I do have a lot of wood planks in storage I could use. Just not sure if I want to mess with that or not.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:06 pm to stout
I don't want to put too much work into it. The building's owner gets to keep everything when we move out of the space, and we're hoping to do that as soon as we can if we're successful. If I had django money, I'd put down baby seal arse and call it a day. Unfortunately, I'm stuck with vinyl.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:12 pm to GatorBaiter
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I don't want to put too much work into it.
Yea same here but I also run a construction business and I know my workers will be in and out with filthy shoes/boots so I want easy to clean. The only issues I have with putting down vinyl flooring is it will wear quickly in traffic areas.
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The building's owner gets to keep everything when we move out of the space
Negotiate with him to take it off of a month or two worth of rent unless you negotiated cheap rent beforehand in exchange for the work you're doing.
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If I had django money,
You could maybe shop at WalMart over Dollar General. Dude is a phony.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:17 pm to CBLSU316
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Once that's done you can teach a monkey to lay vinyl.
that's for me.
I have done a few floors. Every one an experiment of some kind.
no two alike.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:24 pm to GatorBaiter
My old house had sections of laminate peel and stick plank flooring meant to resemble a dark hardwood, it had no barrier and looked/held up great. Also, my parents just put some in that you'd swear was distressed barnwood and didn't use a barrier of any kind. It looks like this:
I wouldn't hesitate to put it in my house, it's easily become the focal point of their home and they get endless compliments on it.
I wouldn't hesitate to put it in my house, it's easily become the focal point of their home and they get endless compliments on it.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:30 pm to GatorBaiter
Yes, no barrier is correcr.
You will have to put down a layer of self leveling thin set, glue then the floor. We've got rid of laminate and put down Vinyl and couldn't be happier.
You will have to put down a layer of self leveling thin set, glue then the floor. We've got rid of laminate and put down Vinyl and couldn't be happier.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:38 pm to CHEDBALLZ
I also work at Lowe's in the flooring department. I've been in flooring 2 years. You do not need any moisture barrier what so ever. The resilient vinyl plank is basically made out of rubber and impenetrable to water.
Also no glues or aheahsives necessary. Also don't buy sticky floor tile it's pure shite and the edges could eventually come up.
Also no glues or aheahsives necessary. Also don't buy sticky floor tile it's pure shite and the edges could eventually come up.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:40 pm to CHEDBALLZ
Unless your floor is unlevel then you won't need any selfleveling underlayment.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:48 pm to CHEDBALLZ
Concrete is porous, no need to use a moisture barrier? Anyone that tells you this is a hack. if you need self leveling thinset & you are diy
You are in over your head it's gonna blow up on you
You are in over your head it's gonna blow up on you
Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:56 pm to Cracker
You don't need a moisture barrier for floating vinyl plank. Period. Anyone who tells you that you do doesn't know what the frick they are talking about. I have had thousands of SF of the stuff installed in spec houses and not once was a vapor barrier installed. It will tell you it's not necessary on the paper that comes in the box
Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:56 pm to Cracker
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Concrete is porous, no need to use a moisture barrier? Anyone that tells you this is a hack.
Umm....as mentioned earlier there is a moisture barrier in the slab already. All slabs on grade have visqueen in them.
Unless his slab is below grade, like in a basement, then the moisture barrier in the slab will suffice with vinyl. Also, if he is using glue down planks he could use a glue that doubles as a moisture barrier just to be sure. There is such a thing.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:07 pm to GatorBaiter
The guy in Lowes is wrong.
At a min, you need to do a moisture test to determine if it's acceptable. If the moisture content is too high, the glue won't stick and your floor will peel up.
My advice to you is to put down the barrier. Min cost that protects you from having to replace your floor.
Trust me
Edit: Are you talking about a floating floor, or a VCT plank flooring that you glue? If you're putting glue, you need moisture barrier. If this is a stupid cheap version of wood flooring with a pad underneath, then you don't need a moisture barrier. It doesn't matter if the slab is above ground or in a basement. Unless you know for a fact the the concrete guy taped all your seams in the plastic and installed the proper thickness, there is no way to guarantee you won't have problems.
At a min, you need to do a moisture test to determine if it's acceptable. If the moisture content is too high, the glue won't stick and your floor will peel up.
My advice to you is to put down the barrier. Min cost that protects you from having to replace your floor.
Trust me
Edit: Are you talking about a floating floor, or a VCT plank flooring that you glue? If you're putting glue, you need moisture barrier. If this is a stupid cheap version of wood flooring with a pad underneath, then you don't need a moisture barrier. It doesn't matter if the slab is above ground or in a basement. Unless you know for a fact the the concrete guy taped all your seams in the plastic and installed the proper thickness, there is no way to guarantee you won't have problems.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:12 pm to Cracker
Yes concrete is pourous. When you install any flooring, it's proper to do a moisture test. The manufacturer doesn't require a moisture barrier. Would you call them a hack as well?
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:15 pm to elprez00
Listen to the people who sell it or install it. I find it funny when people come into the store thinking they know but they have no idea.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:26 pm to UKWildcatsFAN
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Listen to the people who sell it or install it. I find it funny when people come into the store thinking they know but they have no idea.
I've built about $200m of commercial buildings in the last 10 years with flooring systems from VCT to terrazzo to polished concrete all over south Louisiana. There's not a manufacturer of VCT that does not require a moisture test in order to preserve the manufacturer warranty. Even terrazzo requires it. If you put glue down on a slab with high moisture, it will peel up and chip off. I've seen it happen. Even concrete sealants have issues with moisture transmission and depending on the surface conditions may preclude you from using certain ones.
If its a floating floor, he's probably fine. If he's putting down peel and stick or glue, he needs to test to make sure.
But I'm sure the guy making $10/hr in the flooring Dept in lowes is an expert and is to be trusted. I'd love to know where your Lowes is if you believe that.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:40 pm to elprez00
He specifically said he was putting down resilient vinyl plank flooring. That means it's a floating floor. For someone who knows everything about flooring, you don't read very well or know much about premium viny flooring.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:42 pm to UKWildcatsFAN
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I also bet I make more than you.
Nice edit
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:43 pm to stout
I was trying to add some creme to it but I know I dont.
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