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Vinyl plank flooring over concrete

Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:14 pm
Posted by GatorBaiter
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:14 pm
We are putting down resilient vinyl planks on top of concrete. We went to get a vapor barrier from Lowes and the guy there said we don't need to use that with this type of flooring? Does that sound right?
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50248 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:15 pm to
Does not sound right to me.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

Vinyl


Posted by cascade
Ruston
Member since Nov 2011
340 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:17 pm to
Make sure you get every single tiny little pebble up before you do.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
39777 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:17 pm to
That will be one hard arse floor
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:19 pm to
Their should be a vapor barrier under your slab

Not sure if the floor still requires one though
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16868 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:21 pm to
That floor needs to be as smooth as a babies behind otherwise it will look like shite.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:25 pm to
Not required under vinyl. Like others said, all blemishes in the concrete will show.
Posted by Chuckd
Louisiana
Member since May 2013
797 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:26 pm to
I've never used a vapor barrier on the ones I've put down. No problems yet.
Posted by GatorBaiter
Member since Apr 2016
16 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:39 pm to
Appreciate the replies.

It's in a commercial space. It had carpet glued down, which we had removed. The concrete is flat and in good condition. The flooring we got is pretty thick, like laminate.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9337 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:16 pm to
Yes that's right. We hired a professional and had it installed throughout our house
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:18 pm to
What do the intructions say that came with the flooring?
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17668 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:28 pm to
LINKuse the 235 or the 280 you won't find this at lowes just roll it on easy also do not use the crap adhesive from lowes buy it from Loba
Posted by GatorBaiter
Member since Apr 2016
16 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:52 pm to
quote:

What do the intructions say that came with the flooring?


They say it can be installed with or without underlayment, but they don't specify the type of subfloor. I've always assumed you needed a vapor barrier on concrete. Then again, I don't know shite about flooring.
Posted by Libertariantiger
Member since Nov 2012
981 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:12 pm to
Some people aren't familiar with the vinyl plank. They probably think you mean peel and pray style.
If your doing the half inch stuff that is going to replace laminate floors soon, I would recommend a pad like they use on laminate.
That floor, vinyl plank, is about to get real popular.
Posted by GatorBaiter
Member since Apr 2016
16 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:20 pm to
It's not quite that thick. They had that where we purchased it, but they recommended the kind without the built-in backer (not sure what it's called).
Posted by k wilk
Member since Nov 2008
660 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:47 pm to
If you really mean vapor barrier, it's not necessary. If you are talking about an underlayment, however, that is something totally different. An underlayment is a sound barrier that is useful when installing plank on an upper floor to reduce sound transmission to the lower floor. Since you are installing this in a commercial space, it's probably not needed, either.
Posted by clickboom
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2012
208 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 8:25 pm to
If it is glue down, like stated numerous times you don't need a vapor barrier. Just make sure slab is super clean and perfectly smooth or you will have issues. If it is a locking LVT (one that clicks together like laminate a vapor barrier is also not necessary. IF you use an underlayment for sound, use one that is specifically designed for LVT. If you use a laminate underlayment it could make the locking system disengage and your floor with look like shite.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167089 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

Does that sound right?



Yes because it's probably a direct glue down or the really cheap stuff is peel and stick.

I put vinyl wood planks in a lot of smaller specs I built and it will show every flaw in your slab so going through with a grinder and self-leveling cement might be a good idea.

Ignore djangochained laughing at you because he plays some big shot on here constantly trying to act like he is a mogul. Only new money with tiny penises or people that live well beyond their means act like he does. I'll let you guess which one he is. He also probably doesn't realize that some vinyl planks get into mid-tier real wood pricing because of the quality. The difference comes in with the installation labor.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 8:36 pm
Posted by CBLSU316
Far Right of Left
Member since Jun 2008
11391 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 8:38 pm to
No vapor barrier needed.

Make sure slab is good and smooth, imperfect rooms will show thru.

Once that's done you can teach a monkey to lay vinyl.
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