re: Veteran's microphone cut off when he discusses Blacks' role in establishing Memorial Day

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If she is in fact a conservative I will criticize her the same.

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Her FB was open last night and she is indeed a conservative or at least a Trump supporter, she went private this AM. Her husband's is still public but he scrubbed her name, they don't share the same last name.

Simply an incorrect assumption.

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What am I missing? What was wrong with that he said?

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I can't figire it out either. He was stating the history and origins of the holiday. No different from talking about the Boston Massacre, Boston Tea Party, and Lexington and Concord at a July 4 event.

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He was stating the history and origins of the holiday.

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I think the only semi-legitimate reason to ask for him to alter his speech would be on the grounds of accuracy. There are a lot of regional stories about the origins of Decoration Day. While attending (elementary?) school in Charleston I was taught it started there just like Andrew Jackson was definitely from South Carolina.

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I will say with confidence that she is not a part of the “left”

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I wills say with the utmost confidence that the MSM focuses on situations like this and immediately identifies conservatives while being conspicuously less curious when it comes to progressives.

And multiple conservatives (to include myself) have spoken out about this issue so your corollary fails from the start counselor.

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I can't figire it out either. He was stating the history and origins of the holiday.

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I don’t think you’re going to find a logical answer to why this happened. The women who cut the mike is a putz whose mind has been poisoned by something. Maybe she is a racist. Maybe she doesn’t like any suggestion of the union army as liberators. Maybe she is so tired of hearing about black lives matters and just rejects anything that she perceives as being in that vein.

What is almost certainly true is this lady loves to call people snowflakes and is herself a giant snowflake.

If that man is really an Officer, why is he wasting time on that topic?

Here is a draft of the speech if anyone cares to read it:



The following text was provided by Kemter:

Welcome all. It is a pleasure to see so many of you turn out to honor and pay our respects to those who gave their lives while serving our country.

I am Lieutenant Colonel Barney Kemter U.S. Army Retired and an alumnus of Hudson High School, Class of 1962. I shall do the math for you, I’m 77 years old. Many of you may have seen my posts on the Facebook page "I grew up in Hudson." Now you have the opportunity to place a face to those postings. Some of you may recognize me from five years ago when I was here and was the featured speaker.

Today is Memorial Day. This is the day that we pay homage to all those who served in the military and didn’t come home. This is not Veterans Day, it’s not a celebration, it is a day of solemn contemplation over the cost of our freedom. Memorial Day was born out of necessity. After the American Civil War, a battered United States was faced with the task of burying and honoring the 600,000 to 800,000 Union and Confederate soldiers who had died in the single bloodiest military conflict in American history. The first national commemoration of Memorial Day was held in Arlington National Cemetery on May 30, 1868, where both Union and Confederate soldiers were buried.

Several towns and cities across America claim to have observed their own earlier versions of Memorial Day or 'Decoration Day' as early as 1866. (The earlier name is derived from the fact that decorating graves was and remains a central activity of Memorial Day.) But it wasn’t until a remarkable discovery in a dusty Harvard University archive [in] the late 1990s that historians learned about a Memorial Day commemoration organized by a group of freed black slaves less than a month after the Confederacy surrendered in 1865.

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But in recent years the origins of how and where Decoration Day began has sparked lively debate among historians, with some, including Yale historian David Blight, asserting the holiday is rooted in a moving ceremony held by freed slaves on May 1, 1865, at the tattered remnants of a Confederate prison camp at Charleston’s Washington Race Course and Jockey Club – today known as Hampton Park. The ceremony is believed to have included a parade of as many as 10,000 people, including 3,000 Black schoolchildren singing the Union marching song "John Brown’s Body' while carrying armfuls of flowers to decorate the graves.

More importantly than whether Charleston’s Decoration Day was the first, is the attention Charleston’s Black community paid to the nearly 260 Union troops who died at the site. For two weeks prior to the ceremony, former slaves and Black workmen exhumed the soldiers’ remains from a hastily dug mass grave behind the racetrack’s grandstand and gave each soldier a proper burial. They also constructed a fence to protect the site with an archway at the entrance that read "Martyrs of the Race Course."

The dead prisoners of war at the racetrack must have seemed especially worthy of honor to the former slaves. Just as the former slaves had, the dead prisoners had suffered imprisonment and mistreatment while held captive by white southerners.

Not surprisingly, many white southerners who had supported the Confederacy, including a large swath of white Charlestonians, did not feel compelled to spend a day decorating the graves of their former enemies. It was often the African American southerners who perpetuated the holiday in the years immediately following the Civil War.

African Americans across the South clearly helped shape the ceremony in its early years. Without African Americans, the ceremonies would have had far fewer in attendance in many areas, thus making the holiday less significant.

My generation grew up listening to the famous radio personality Paul Harvey. Paul would say at the end of his broadcast, "And now you know the rest of the story." And now you know the rest of the story about the origin of Memorial Day.

If you visited the moving tribute to the fallen heroes from Hudson on what we old timers call the village green, all the men shared this oath and obligation:

"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

It is a gift or pledge of their lives to the United States of America. That oath is a major part of who we are in the military. It forms the bedrock of what we stand for and are willing to fight for.

The oath fully embraces what we do and we let them guide our military service. I distinctly remember being administered that oath 56 years ago, almost as if it was just yesterday. I was in Cleveland going through my preparations to enlist in the U.S. Army. I stood in a room with at least 40 or 50 other people, all standing at what we called "attention," facing the front of the room. An officer entered and said he was going to administer the Oath of Enlistment to all of us. At this point, I had never heard the words so I had no idea as to what we were going to say.

We raised our right hands, as he asked us to, and began to recite after him. It seemed as if time stood still, because I mentally paused and reflected on the words I was repeating. I thought to myself this is not a joke — this is real.

As soon as he had administered the Oath of Enlistment, I immediately felt a strong sense of patriotism. I felt as if I was invincible. Don't laugh. I'm not sure why, but I was young, I really felt a sense of belonging to something bigger than myself.

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Absolutely correct. But not based upon the preponderance of recent evidence. This goes against the norm when it comes to our main stream media.

But hey, Trump lost so all is good.

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Help me understand your line of thinking here. So because many censorship stories that you've read deal with left silencing right, you jump to that same conclusion based on that fact and that fact only?

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Based upon likelihood? Give me recent stories where the Right has silenced the Left. You can give me a good one on COVID 19 right now.

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If I am in error I will own it.

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Just take the L and move on. Nobody excoriated you or anyone else back-slapping each other in the thread-like what TulaneLSU was subjected to for the same thing. No need to try to explain why you would have been right in every other instance. There was plenty of info in the OP to clue one into the fact it wasn't what you decided it was. The fact it was small-town Ohio and the woman in question was the president of the town's American Legion Auxiliary is more than enough evidence to indicate it was unlikely she was a radical leftist.

I scanned her FB page last night and she seems to be a nice enough lady and in fairness all we do know about her is she isn't a snitch, she may have never touched the volume knob. She got a mountain of shite whether or not she physically acted. I know her husband's name and his FB is still public but he took the link to her page off his page and scrubbed her name based on that I am not going to put it out there as he had already gotten some comments.

Making assumptions no matter what our feels bolstered by our experiance tells us is a part of the problem we face. Justifying an erroneous assumption because we feel it was more than 50/50 is lazy, weak-minded, and an even bigger part of the problem.

I took the L early on when you pointed out she was more than likely a conservative. I am not the one who keeps posting and dredging it up. But I challenge anyone to say that we do not have an MSM that actively supports the Left and assists in the silencing of opposition. They are not journalists, they are activists. It is ridiculous and unhealthy for our Nation.

Nice post last night by the way. Very poignant.