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Utah high school fines students for being late

Posted on 9/7/17 at 6:14 am
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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STANSBURY PARK, Utah -- A high school is fining students if they arrive to class late.

Students at Stansbury High School in Utah will receive a warning if they are consistently late to class. After the warning, the student will receive a $3 fine. If the tardiness continues, the fee goes up to $5.




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If students are unable to pay their fines they have an option to take a lunch detention or show a clean tardy attendance for a few weeks.

School administrators said the money collected from the fines will go towards a fund for student incentives.




Agree/Disagree?

What happens if the bus is late?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 6:17 am to
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What happens if the bus is late?


Given that it only kicks in if the student is consistently late, probably nothing.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 6:19 am to
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Agree/Disagree?

While teaching children that mommy and daddy can buy their way out of punishment reflects reality, I'm not sure it sends the right message.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 6:19 am to
Looks good to me. Maybe a financial cost will make kids realize that timeliness matters
Posted by NikeShox
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 6:20 am to
Bus? You mean horse and buggy?
Posted by CaptainJ47
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 6:34 am to
I think one of Malcolm Gladwell's books showed this initially works but then would create even more tardiness because the fee is nominal. There was an example used where people charged for being late to pick up their kids from daycare actually increased the rate at which people were late.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 6:36 am to
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Maybe a financial cost will make kids realize that timeliness matters

Sure, for the few that will actually be spending money they earned. The majority will just be asking mom for a fiver and avoiding any real consequence. Just sounds like fund raising at the expense of discipline to me.



Posted by cfish140
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 6:37 am to
Wish my job would do this. These jokers are 5 min late everyday
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 6:39 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 6:39 am to
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If students are unable to pay their fines they have an option to take a lunch detention or show a clean tardy attendance for a few weeks.


Ok then. This is a non-issue.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 8:06 am to
Not sure why they give you an option to buy your way out, we went to after school detention for repeated tardiness.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 8:07 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 8:13 am to
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Looks good to me. Maybe a financial cost will make kids realize that timeliness matters


Since I am sure that the high school kid will be thr one paying the fines...
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 8:16 am to
I don't have an issue with this.

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Since I am sure that the high school kid will be thr one paying the fines...


You think most kids are really going to want to have that conversation with their parents?

"Mom/Dad, can I have 5 bucks?"

"Why do you need 5 bucks?"

"To pay my fine for being late to school"
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 8:18 am
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 8:24 am to
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Wish my job would do this. These jokers are 5 min late everyday


It would appear that just about the only places that are anal retentive about being 5 minutes late are high schools and possibly low skill labor jobs.

Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 8:26 am to
A lunch detention?

You mean I get to eat in privacy and silence?
Posted by Steadyhands
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:02 am to
quote:

I think one of Malcolm Gladwell's books showed this initially works but then would create even more tardiness because the fee is nominal. There was an example used where people charged for being late to pick up their kids from daycare actually increased the rate at which people were late.


This is sort of true. I pay for aftercare for my child after school...it is considered after care at 3:40 pm and I can't get there until 3:45-3:50, so I'm stuck paying for aftercare. Aftercare, in the past, was considered not to start until 4:00. For whatever reason they changed it, I'm stuck paying for it now. I take my time getting there now since I'm paying for it anyways. So if I leave the office later, or want to stop by the store before I get my child....now I do.
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
2918 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:31 am to
It's good that they there is punishment. Fines, however, are not a good idea IMO if it is a public school. Given the low amount, it's not the worst thing either. Would rather see some form of detention, suspension, corporal punishment or other punishment.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51893 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 11:34 am to
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While teaching children that mommy and daddy can buy their way out of punishment reflects reality, I'm not sure it sends the right message.


I think the reason for the low amount is to avoid just that.

Most HS kids can afford that, although it hits on the play money.


Any kid who immediately goes to their parent to get it fixed and they don't reprimand/refuse...odds are that particular kid is a lost cause anyway.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 11:37 am to
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You mean horse and buggy?


This isn't Amish country retard.
Posted by Jackie Chan
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Member since Sep 2012
4681 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 11:43 am to
If I got a 5$ fine every day for being late in high school, I'd still be in debt now, 15 years later.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 8:09 pm to
Sounds like marriage would be prison for you.
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