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re: US Army Black Hawk helicopter hit by snowmobile, rider sues government for $9.5 million

Posted on 3/9/24 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14210 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 5:37 pm to
If he ran into a helicopter, he should go to his grave telling folks how lucky he was to not have died. Rotor strike is a death incident. 999,999,999,994 times out of a billion.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
8307 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 6:49 pm to
Is it possible it was snowing out? That would limit vis. If you have done the trail a ton of times the you know whats ahead.

2 beers is nothing plus he was outside and active meaning it goes through system faster.

Who made the MPH claim? Was he with a group and they verified it? Or did they do crash analysis to determine? Just curious.

Why is a military copter stopping on a private residence? What business would they have related to military?

Just some questions. I doubt he wins this case, 0.01% chance and thats giving benefit of doubt to him.
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
9967 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:09 pm to
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So, he couldn’t see it?



Could you blame him? Our entire military's arm branch can't see that one of their general is a man in a woman's dress. If they can't see this, I have very little hope for our armed force servicemen.
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
2795 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:19 pm to
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Who made the MPH claim? Was he with a group and they verified it? Or did they do crash analysis to determine? Just curious.


Don’t know, but in the articles I’ve seen, his lawyers are not debating the speed he was traveling. Presumably the level of damage would imply a range. The guy even admitted that his headlight caught something and then he crashed
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30048 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:47 pm to
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The owner of the property lets snowmobiles access/traverse the property.



well i could see the property owner being liable, its not fair, but if you let someone on your property, you accept liability for what happens to them on your property. even from acts of their own stupidity

no way the pilots should share any responsibility for this
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57499 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:52 pm to
Why wouldn’t you just leave it at this?

quote:

Sort of reminds me of the movie Flight


Nobody needs a multiple paragraph plot breakdown of the movie
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
1857 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:33 pm to
There ain't no way this guy hits a moving tail rotor and a) survives, b)even comes close to it. The lowest blade on a turning Blackhawk tail rotor is 6 ft 7 inches above the ground. This guy is riding a snowmobile. Unless he got some air or ran up a slope he's not coming anywhere near it. Think about how hunched down you are on a snowmobile. It's like a Ski-Doo.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 2:34 pm
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17475 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 4:11 pm to
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I thought this was America!


It is and you can drive 65 mph at night on a snowmobile but don’t sue the government when you do something this utterly stupid!
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30048 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 4:13 pm to
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There ain't no way this guy hits a moving tail rotor and a) survives, b)even comes close to it.


no the blades were not turning, it was broken down and not running.

it was left at an old abandoned airport that locals used as a place to ride snow mobiles at.

drunk idiot ran into a stationary non running helicopter that was parked at an old unused abandoned airport
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 4:16 pm
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27430 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:01 pm to
I actually thought this was going to be a situation where the Blackhawk was chasing the snowmobile for training purposes.

The shite used to happen all the time at Glamis in the early 2000s late '90s.

You would blow the top off of a dune and then see a Blackhawk on the other side, they would then follow you your job was to try to lose them.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57296 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:15 pm to
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This dipshit act like a child and expects the government to bail him out for his own stupidity.
Who does this guy think he is? A student loan borrower?
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19694 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:37 pm to
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guy lost the use of his arm so i hope he wins this, it sounds like the tail rotor hit his arm with all those surgeries he had
. Due to his own ignorance…
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
939 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:48 pm to
This is why the world hates lawyers.

So many of them try to get paid by creating a world where nobody is responsible for their own stupidity.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49444 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 6:03 pm to
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-it was dark/night when this happened, so going that speed is really not safe
-it is an FAA approved airstrip, it’s on a private farm that allows snowmobiles to access/traverse the property. So IMO, the only other potentially negligent party is the farm owner, who this guy settled with for an unknown amount years ago.


65 isn't out of hand if riding on a trail which it sounds he was from the above.

There are signs along the trail for hazards, corners, etc. And if you have ridden the trail before obviously you know where the hazards are.

Until someone parks a black helicopter on said trail. In the dark.

You will not see that shite until it's too late.
Posted by Deez Pecans
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2023
16 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 6:04 pm to
a black hawk is hardly stealth
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49444 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 6:07 pm to
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The owner of the property lets snowmobiles access/traverse the property.




That's how snowmobile trails work.

The government doesn't own the trail generally. Clubs get permission from landowners to traverse their property.

Interesting the landowner paid a settlement.
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