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re: UPDATE: CHARGES DROPPED - Flintlock from 1700s could land NJ man in prison
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:29 pm to LSUfan20005
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:29 pm to LSUfan20005
Exactly, it starts with the arresting officer
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:29 pm to LSUsmartass
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.but in this case it seems like if this guy were that big of a gun collector he would follow whatever procedure/protocol there is for transporting antique firearms.
Maybe he didn't. He only has a few of them.
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but sometimes the law doesn't factor in common sense.
Thats the issue.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:31 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
What exactly was the charge?
Carrying a concealed weapon? I looked in several articles and they never detailed the charges.
Carrying a concealed weapon? I looked in several articles and they never detailed the charges.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:32 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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Common sense says to make sure the firearm you are acquiring is legal.
Seriously, the thing probably doesn't even work.
I doubt he thought he was breaking some law that could land him in jail for a decade by buying a 300 year old flint lock weapon that hasn't been operational in his lifetime.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:36 pm to ForeverLSU02
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“I called the prosecutor to see what we could do on this, and the prosecutor told me that they were waiting for ballistics," Nappen said incredulously. "And I’m thinking, ‘What? Ballistics on a flintlock?'"
What sort of "ballistics" are they going to get from a damn 250+ year old smooth bore flintlock? They think there's a chance this old man killed someone with this pistol?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:38 pm to LSUsmartass
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Exactly, it starts with the arresting officer
I think the AO wanted to let it go but the sheriff insisted.
There could be more to this story...it was from November, and is only now making the rounds.
Where are all the usual suspects who like to say "don't do the crime if you can't do the time"? Guy was breaking both traffic laws and firearm laws. Don't break the law and there'll be no problem...amirite?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:40 pm to Darth_Vader
I can't wait until investigators interrogate a 72 year old man on his whereabouts on a 300 year old murder.
"Oh! The ole 'I wasn't born yet' defense! How fricking convenient! Listen, you geriatric piece of scum! I'm onto your game! And I swear I will fricking nail you for this murder!"
"Oh! The ole 'I wasn't born yet' defense! How fricking convenient! Listen, you geriatric piece of scum! I'm onto your game! And I swear I will fricking nail you for this murder!"
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:42 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Unlawful possession of a handgun
What exactly was the charge?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:43 pm to ForeverLSU02
Why did he even disclose that he had it if it was locked in his glovebox? Big mistake
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:46 pm to LL012697
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Why did he even disclose that he had it if it was locked in his glovebox? Big mistake
Perhaps they decided there was probable cause to search since he was flaunting the traffic laws as well?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:51 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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He knew it was illegal. Laws are laws.
You should hurl yourself into a fire...full of broken glass...
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:53 pm to LSUsmartass
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it seems like if this guy were that big of a gun collector he would follow whatever procedure/protocol there is for transporting antique firearms
the article doesnt say he was a big gun collector
it says he was a collector of historical items
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a retired English teacher and collector of historical items
it did say:
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He had recently bought the gun and was planning to add it to his collection of antiques, which includes other old firearms
but it never says he's "a big gun collector"
his "other old firearms" might consist of 2 or 3
his GoFundMe site says that he colelcts 18th century historical items
so its possible he's not familiar with the rules about transporting antique firearms
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:53 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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He knew it was illegal. Laws are laws.
If the cops searched your car or home what would they find?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:54 pm to ForeverLSU02
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Unlawful possession of a handgun
Is a flintlock pistol even considered a handgun?
I mean, did he also have lead balls, wadding, powder packs, and primer/flints handy as well?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:56 pm to elprez00
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I mean, did he also have lead balls, wadding, powder packs, and primer/flints handy as well?
Maybe if this is him....
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:01 pm to elprez00
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Is a flintlock pistol even considered a handgun?
Federal law does not define this as a gun...
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:23 pm to wickowick
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Federal law does not define this as a gun...
Thats what I'm talking about. Common sense has to play a part here.
This isn't a .45 without a magazine. Its a damn musket. To me, this is akin to arresting a guy for carrying a suit of medieval armor in his trunk for having illegal body armor.
Perhaps the arresting officer saw the strange grip and mistook it for an assault flintlock?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:37 pm to SabiDojo
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And now a prized collectors item is in evidence lock up getting thrown around like a rag doll.
Must have been no big deal to the old man since he is casually driving it around in a glove compartment wrapped in a rag.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:41 pm to elprez00
I was thinking under fed law this is an antique And not subject to state handgun regs.
What's gonna suck is when they destroy the flintlock testing it, and the old man is out whatever $ he paid for it.
What's gonna suck is when they destroy the flintlock testing it, and the old man is out whatever $ he paid for it.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 3:48 pm to Darth_Vader
A schedule 1 narcotic and paraphernalia, but that's irrelevant.
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