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UPDATE: CHARGES DROPPED - Flintlock from 1700s could land NJ man in prison

Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:09 pm
Posted by ForeverLSU02
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:09 pm
Posted on OB, but I figured some here would be interested too

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In a case that underscores the Garden State's strict gun laws, Gordon Van Gilder, a retired English teacher and collector of historical items, has been charged with criminal possession of a handgun and faces up to 10 years in prison. If the 72-year-old is convicted, the charge carries a mandatory minimum sentence of 3.5 years and the pension Van Gilder earned as an educator could be revoked, penalties attorney Evan Nappen called "outrageous.
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Van Gilder readily acknowledged the unloaded gun was in his glove compartment and wrapped in cloth when he was pulled over for a traffic violation in Cumberland County in November, 2014, according to Nappen. He had recently bought the gun and was planning to add it to his collection of antiques, which includes other old firearms, the lawyer said.
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“I called the prosecutor to see what we could do on this, and the prosecutor told me that they were waiting for ballistics," Nappen said incredulously. "And I’m thinking, ‘What? Ballistics on a flintlock?'"
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 12:37 pm
Posted by chesty
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:10 pm to
cop and prosecutor should both be written up for a lack of common sense..
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:10 pm to
wtf

Hopefully someone of power steps in and ends this before it begins. Outrageous.


Common sense left our legal system a long time ago.
Posted by oleyeller
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:10 pm to
he could have done a mass shooting with that thing. Good job police
Posted by Pintail
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:14 pm to
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A Queen Anne flintlock is a prized collector's item, but not the weapon of choice for modern criminals, according to firearms experts.


Amazed at how it takes a firearms expert to figure this out..
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:14 pm to
At the rate of 6 a minute
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:15 pm to
And now a prized collectors item is in evidence lock up getting thrown around like a rag doll.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 2:17 pm
Posted by LSUsmartass
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:16 pm to
Aren't there procedures for transporting antique firearms, especially if you know your state has strict gun laws?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:19 pm to
He knew it was illegal. Laws are laws.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:20 pm to
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He knew it was illegal. Laws are laws.




Again, common sense.

Come on with this bullshite.
Posted by Tino
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:20 pm to
-2/10
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:22 pm to
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Again, common sense.

Come on with this bullshite.

There are a shite ton laws being broken everyday where if common sense played a role then they would be non-issues...I'm not saying this guy has it coming or anything, but sometimes the law doesn't factor in common sense...but in this case it seems like if this guy were that big of a gun collector he would follow whatever procedure/protocol there is for transporting antique firearms.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:23 pm to
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He knew it was illegal
I seriously doubt that...
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:23 pm to
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but in this case it seems like if this guy were that big of a gun collector he would follow whatever procedure/protocol there is for transporting antique firearms.
I tend to agree with you here. Still shitty though
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20852 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:24 pm to
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He knew it was illegal. Laws are laws.


people like this make me think our kids are screwed.
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:24 pm to
it sounds like a load of horsecrap to me..
Posted by Pintail
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:24 pm to
If he collects old guns like that he probably did know it was illegal
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:25 pm to
Common sense says to make sure the firearm you are acquiring is legal.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:26 pm to
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I seriously doubt that...

Then he's a fricking idiot.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8805 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:27 pm to
The traffic officer is the problem here. He should have just let it pass.
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