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re: Uninsured motorist bodily injury coverage

Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21963 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

I read and understood Uninsured motorist bodily injury only covers your medical bills and nothing else...then there is uninsured economic loss that covers other things, which I don't currently carry.


No, economic only is cheaper UM and covers less than regular UM. Economic only UM only covers things that you can put an actual dollar figure behind (medical bills, wages, and other actual expenses related to the injuries sustained in the accident). You can also get pain and suffering with regular UM, you can't get pain and suffering with economic only.

Basically, you can have regular UMBI or UMBI economic only...not both because its duplicates coverage. Regular UMBI covers everything economic only does, plus pain and suffering.
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
3504 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:28 pm to
Question - If you get rear-ended, end up with a herniated cervical disc, and need surgery and spend a year or two in pain and your case is worth $500,000 - will you be happy getting $15k for your pain and suffering or do you want more?
Posted by Wes Tweegan
Westwego, LA United States
Member since Oct 2015
69 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:41 pm to
Your medical insurance (Healthcare coverage) does not cover the injuries to non-family members who might be in your car when you're hit by an uninsured driver. Uninsured Motorists - Bodily injury coverage will pay for their injuries up to your UMBI limit. Like the other guy said "You need it".
Posted by poops_at_parties
Member since Jan 2016
1545 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:42 pm to
It's only helpful IF you would like The option to "sue" your own policy for pain and suffering in the event that you are hit and hurt by an uninsured or underinsured motorist in Louisiana.
If you have a great health insurance plan, uninsured motorist is just lagniappe.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 12:43 pm
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4542 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:47 pm to
I have a question regarding this. If carrying collision and comprehensive, is carrying UM redundant?
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22704 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

Is it redundant to carry 50/100 in uninsured motorist bodily injury if you have great medical insurance?


no. Medical insurance does not pay for pain and suffering or lost wages.

Economic only UM is a crap product.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
85044 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

I have a question regarding this. If carrying collision and comprehensive, is carrying UM redundant?

No, not redundant at all. Collision and Comp are first party insurance for property damage only, when there is no one else at fault, or the fault was yours. UM covers your damages when someone else was at fault, but they were not properly insured.
Posted by poops_at_parties
Member since Jan 2016
1545 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

I have a question regarding this. If carrying collision and comprehensive, is carrying UM redundant?

I'll answer, just in case you were actually being serious.

Comprehensive and collision coverage or completely different van uninsured motors coverage. If you were hit by somebody without insurance, your vehicles damages will be paid for by your collision coverage, meaning that you will still be subject to whatever your collision deductible is. If you don't have collision coverage and you were hit by somebody without insurance, you will not have coverage for the damage to your vehicle.

The only time, and I do mean the only time, that uninsured motorist coverage pays for the damage to your vehicle is if you happen to have no collision or comprehensive coverage and you have uninsured motorist property damage coverage. This is the coverage that you specifically have to ask for.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 12:53 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36231 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:05 pm to
As a lawyer, having UM coverage is important. The most common UM claims I deal with in SC tend to be John Doe claims, where a motorist is injured due to the negligence of a driver who is unidentified, either because the unidentified motorist flees or legally drives away because there was no contact with another vehicle.

As far as having good health insurance, I'll give you an example. Let's say you get in a wreck with an unknown driver and have $60k in medical bills. Let's also say you have good health insurance and $100k in UM coverage. Your health insurance will likely cover all of your medical expenses and you will likely be able to collect the UM policy limits. While your health insurer will have a subrogation lien on the settlement, you can usually satisfy the insurance lien for 25-50% of the total amount. After lawyer fees, this still leaves you with between $40k and $50k after the case is over.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166497 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:10 pm to
people are missing the bigger picture.

If your health insurance is out of pocket 75k for your injuries, you are recouping 75k from your UM policy, not just "what you were out of pocket". Your insurance is your business.
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4638 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:22 pm to
Does UM cover you in an Uber? Someone said they carry only $5k insurance for medical bills in accidents.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
58382 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:24 pm to
And most health insurers won't subrogate against your auto policy.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21963 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

I have a question regarding this. If carrying collision and comprehensive, is carrying UM redundant?


Absolutely not, covers completely different things.

UM covers bodily injury to you or your passengers caused when other driver was at fault and either didn't have insurance or didn't have enough insurance for severity of injuries.

Comprehensive and collision cover physical damages to your vehicles. Your collision coverage would apply in a case where the other driver was at fault but was either uninsured or under-insured, and collision coverage applies to your own vehicle when you're at fault.

If you dropped collision coverage on your vehicle, you have the option to buy Uninsured Motorist Property Damage (UMPD) which would cover damage to your car in the event it was hit by an uninsured driver.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81726 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

Does UM cover you in an Uber? Someone said they carry only $5k insurance for medical bills in accidents.

That 5K is probably Med-pay. The vehicle will have some level of liability. If the driver is at fault, you can collect that, plus stack your personal UM on top of that. You cannot stack the Uber's UM(If any) because that driver cannot be both an insured and an underinsured under the same policy.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81726 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

And most health insurers won't subrogate against your auto policy.

I've never seen one actually challenge UM. First party vs. first party. They go after liability quite often.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
58382 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:36 pm to
Yea I'm talking Med Pay/UM.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81726 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:38 pm to
I've always told them to piss up a rope and they go away.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4542 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

just in case you were actually being serious.



Yea I was being serious. I'm not a SME in auto insurance.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81726 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 2:01 pm to
How are the online companies dealing with selection/rejection forms?
Posted by piratedude
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2009
2511 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 2:03 pm to
FYI, you are not required to be in your car when injured for UM to provide coverage. it covers when someone causes injury to you with a car through their fault and they don't have any/enough insurance. you can be asleep in your bed and get hit by a drunk driver and UM provides coverage.
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