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re: Two year old Thug (popo video) UPDATE!
Posted on 1/11/14 at 6:24 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
Posted on 1/11/14 at 6:24 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
Anybody that thinks the government should be allowed to take your children should read what Martin Niemoller had to say about the rise of nazi germany.
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me."
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me."
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Posted on 1/11/14 at 8:13 am to OMLandshark
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You give those 5 policies 20 years, and I just about guarantee that the crime rate will plummet, and in 40 years, the bad kids would be the exception and not generally expected by the population.
And the Democratic Party would be dead.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 8:23 am to Placebeaux
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Martin Niemoller
Great quote from a self-avowed communist who ironically won the Lenin Peace Prize.
How many people were taken from their homes by force under Communist regimes?
Oh the irony.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 8:24 am to Placebeaux
You have no concept of some of the shithead "parents" some kids are born with. Niemoller's quote doesn't apply here.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 8:27 am to 4LSU2
quote:The two aren't exactly mutually exclusive.
The problem repeats itself over and over as the black community turns a blind eye to their own problems while claiming racism at every chance they get to the white population
Posted on 1/11/14 at 8:28 am to Easy
quote:What's your alternative for this kid? Let him keep living in deplorable conditions?
I take responsibility for my kids. I'm supposed to be responsible for this kid in Omaha too?
Posted on 1/11/14 at 8:28 am to biglego
Does the kid need to be removed from that environment? Yes
Will government expand that power and exploit it to no end? You bet they will.
It's a no win situation for them.
Will government expand that power and exploit it to no end? You bet they will.
It's a no win situation for them.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 8:37 am to Placebeaux
There's no one else to intervene other than the gov.
Taking kids from dangerous households is not a new thing. Parents are given opportunity to clean up their act. They are also given a trial before losing parental rights.
The state isn't swooping in and snatching kids left and right without good reason.
Taking kids from dangerous households is not a new thing. Parents are given opportunity to clean up their act. They are also given a trial before losing parental rights.
The state isn't swooping in and snatching kids left and right without good reason.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 8:44 am to Placebeaux
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Will government expand that power and exploit it to no end? You bet they will.
Just curious, how so?
Posted on 1/11/14 at 8:44 am to biglego
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There's no one else to intervene other than the gov.
Church, family or local community would be ideal but obviously one of those is not even a option. It's just sad that some people have fallen this far. You hate to throw the black community under the bus but ultimately it's their problem and it should be everyone's concern.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 8:48 am to Sal Minella
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Just curious, how so?
If one thing has been proven the past 100 years it's governments ability to only grow and not shrink.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 8:48 am to Placebeaux
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Church, family or local community would be ideal but obviously one of those is not even a option.
None of those are an option for a child without government intervention of some sort.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 8:52 am to Placebeaux
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If one thing has been proven the past 100 years it's governments ability to only grow and not shrink.
I'd agree when something that is done is to the benefit of those who make up the government.
Could you limit your answer to the scope of how you think the governments role in child protection?
Posted on 1/11/14 at 9:10 am to Sal Minella
I just feel if we go down that road, people/kids become property of the state which is the most anti constitutional thing I can think of. I have no problem with child endangerment laws but what you have to remember is this came about due to a video of a child swearing. Egging a child on to swear is not child endangerment, it's bad parenting but not child endangerment. So to me it's like saying it's ok for the government to take your child if the government doesn't like what you are teaching your child to say or think. IMO if a parent wants to raise their child to be racist, prejudice, fascist, communist, socialist, conservative, liberal etc...it's their right.
This post was edited on 1/11/14 at 9:11 am
Posted on 1/11/14 at 9:17 am to 4LSU2
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The problem repeats itself over and over as the black community turns a blind eye to their own problems while claiming racism at every chance they get to the white population. This issue won't correct itself until they take responsibility of the issues and decide to do something about it
THIS THIS THIS
Posted on 1/11/14 at 9:51 am to Placebeaux
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Egging a child on to swear is not child endangerment, it's bad parenting but not child endangerment. So to me it's like saying it's ok for the government to take your child if the government doesn't like what you are teaching your child to say or think. IMO if a parent wants to raise their child to be racist, prejudice, fascist, communist, socialist, conservative, liberal etc...it's their right.
Based on the link, the child was taken into custody because:
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children were found wandering outside alone
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2-year old DaMarion Devers sat in his mother's arms as then 16-year old Ennisha Devers told KMTV about how she, her son and two others were shot inside their home.
It seems the video predicated the state realizing a pattern of issues that needs further investigation. They weren't taken into custody because of the teaching of profanity.
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The Douglas county attorney did investigate the case but determined no laws were broken.
The sad part of this particular case is that people are appalled by this when, in fact, in certain neighborhoods this behavior to include children being shot is the norm.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 10:22 am to OMLandshark
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Honestly, we all know how to end this shite, but no politician has the balls to do it. The people who break the law with major offenses almost always come from broken homes, daddy is gone, they have a few half siblings, education is something that is shunned, and they were unwanted from the start. I've got a few plans to end this, and hopefully over the course of a generation or two, you'll see the incarceration rate dramatically decrease:
1) Anyone with a 5 years or more sentence gets a complementary vasectomy/tube tying.
2) Anyone who has a kid while on welfare gets a complementary vasectomy or tube tying.
3) Any man who has had 4 kids out of 4 different households gets a bullet between his eyes.
4) Once you have your 5th kid, you get a complementary vasectomy/tube tying, regardless of social class.
5) Abortions and condoms would be completely complementary and encouraged by the government.
You give those 5 policies 20 years, and I just about guarantee that the crime rate will plummet, and in 40 years, the bad kids would be the exception and not generally expected by the population.
No way that would ever happen and way too complicated.
The way to do it is to remove the government teat from their mouths. Instead of an economy that works for everyone have an economy where everyone works.
Accomplishment through hard work will cure a lot of social ills. Humans are hard-wired to be productive. Take that away and you have a highly dysfunctional human being.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 10:42 am to Sal Minella
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Based on the link, the child was taken into custody because:
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children were found wandering outside alone
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DaMarion, Ennisha, her 12-year old sibling and 1-year old niece have been placed in state custody after the profane video grabbed police attention.
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Police first became familiar with the family in June after being called to their home near 36th and Browne when children were found wandering outside alone.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 10:48 am to Placebeaux
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Placebeaux
which is why I stated "It seems the video predicated the state realizing a pattern of issues that needs further investigation. They weren't taken into custody because of the teaching of profanity."
Posted on 1/11/14 at 10:50 am to Sal Minella
Why did they wait until after they saw the video to remove the kids? Remember this was after they found them outside wondering around or getting SHOT.
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