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re: Turkish F-16 shoots down Russian Su-24

Posted on 11/25/15 at 7:23 am to
Posted by CoachDon
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Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 7:44 am to
is that the first combat air loss for a fencer?
Posted by AUTimbo
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 7:51 am to
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is that the first combat air loss for a fencer?



Combat maybe

But I shot down nearly a hundred during air base ground defense excercises at Lakenheath as they flew over on "attack misssions" back in the day
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 8:20 am to
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Combat maybe

But I shot down nearly a hundred during air base ground defense excercises at Lakenheath as they flew over on "attack misssions" back in the day



not like what i saw a tomcat do a phantom in 87.....
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 8:42 am to
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You could argue that when it comes to an offensive military, Russia is a paper tiger.


Compared to Europe, they're head and shoulders above. If they mobilized and launched an invasion of Europe, say in the next month, they would be little to stop them before they reached at least the Rhine. And it's not that they're just that powerful (which they are pretty damn powerful), it's that Europe is all but disarmed.
This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 8:54 am
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 8:51 am to
Hey Darth, howya doing?

Have you noticed that Russia is building up stuff along the Turkish border?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 8:53 am to
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Hey Darth, howya doing?



Doing great. Hope you are as well.

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Have you noticed that Russia is building up stuff along the Turkish border?


I've not heard that. Hmmmm, that's a bit troubling but it could just be saber rattling on the part of the Russians. Only thing that worries me is Putin is a bit of a wildcard. He could be crazy enough to launch a war. I doubt he'd do it, but it's not impossible.
This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 8:56 am
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 8:57 am to
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Doing great. Hope you are as well.


Doing as well as can be expected due to the wife acting stupid.

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I've not heard that. Hmmmm, that's a bit troubling but it could just be saber rattling on the part of the Russians. Only thing that worries me is Putin is a bit of a wildcard. He could be crazy enough to launch a war. I doubt he'd do it, but it's not impossible.


Heard something about it on the radio on the way in this morning. Apparently he is moving the new SAM system next to the border along with a host of other stuff.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:31 am to
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Heard something about it on the radio on the way in this morning. Apparently he is moving the new SAM system next to the border along with a host of other stuff.


Sounds like the stuff they use to do in Germany when I was over there during the Cold War. Sounds like saber rattling.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:42 am to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:44 am to
This is not a good development.....

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Shortly afterwards, the MoD announced three steps to be taken following the attack on the Russian Su-24 bomber, including providing aerial cover by fighter jets for every airstrike, boosting air defense by deploying guided missile cruisers off the Latakia coast, and suspending all military-to-military contacts with Turkey.



Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:47 am to
I assume that means there's going to be some "accidents" in the skies over Syria shortly
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:52 am to
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I assume that means there's going to be some "accidents" in the skies over Syria shortly



Well, before this Russian bomber was shot down the potential for something like that was already there. Now that the Russians are going to be giving fighter escorts to all their strike aircraft, not to mention having advanced SAM's set up as well, the potential for things like this to happen are even higher. The main difference now is there's a higher chance of the Russians shooting back if something like what happened to the Su-24 were to happen again. So bottom line is now not only is there a chance for another "accident", if it happens again it could quickly escalate into outright aerial combat.
Posted by maisweh
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:54 am to
in Russia, Turkey shoot you!
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:54 am to
This is starting to sound 1914-ish.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:01 am to
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This is starting to sound 1914-ish.


I doubt it comes to that. But it's not out of the realm of possibilities.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 4:25 pm to
Russia finna eat that Thanksgiving Turkey.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:20 pm to
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I doubt it comes to that. But it's not out of the realm of possibilities.


I could see some skirmishes to test western (in other words, the U.S.) resolve. If we don't step up, then who knows.
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:30 pm to
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Compared to Europe, they're head and shoulders above. If they mobilized and launched an invasion of Europe, say in the next month, they would be little to stop them before they reached at least the Rhine. And it's not that they're just that powerful (which they are pretty damn powerful), it's that Europe is all but disarmed.


That's because Europe's defense is brought to you by Uncle Sugar.
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