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Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:18 am to DelU249
In my short time in Texas I've found Austin to be most NOLA-like out of the three.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:18 am to kballa6
I live in New Orleans, and am soon to be living in Texas, it isn't hate, it is just a question based on observation. When I go to Houston, I see the positives of Texas mixed with the negatives of NOLA. I don't think, and could be very mistaken/wrong, Katrina explains this.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:19 am to chillygentilly
but not along the lines I'm describing
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:22 am to ThisWayChad
I don't hate Houston. In fact, I most certainly like it, but it has an element that I don't see in Austin and Dallas and do see in NOLA, Birmingham, Jackson, Atlanta, etc.
why?
why?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:23 am to DelU249
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When I go to Houston, I see the positives of Texas mixed with the negatives of NOLA
Live there for awhile and then tell us what you think. Two completely different places IMO. Both have their share of good and bad.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:26 am to DelU249
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but it has an element
I find it easy to avoid this element. Somehow you seemed to have run across it on your visits.
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element that I don't see in Austin and Dallas
I think they do have these elements, you've just been luck enough to not have run across them.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:27 am to TigerWise
Two completely different places, yes, but I think Houston is more like NOLA and less like Austin when it comes to what I like to call "gen pop"
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:28 am to LSUJuice
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Somehow you seemed to have run across it on your visits
story of my life, 5 star hotels in prague, gutters in Tijuana, villas in san Miguel, somehow I find the worst parts of Dubai (and holy shite do I mean worst) I'm a regular explorer.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:29 am to DelU249
Austin is completely different then any other part of Texas.
Do you even keep it weird bro ?
Do you even keep it weird bro ?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:31 am to TigerWise
I do not, but the Austin area, while sizeable in hippies, hipsters and liberals, is also home to shite kicking rednecks, regular professionals, etc...
plus hippies won't rob me, at least not successfully.
plus hippies won't rob me, at least not successfully.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:31 am to LSUJuice
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Right, because there's no shitty parts of Dallas too.
compared to Houston?
not so much brah
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:33 am to DelU249
I agree with that about Austin. And while I haven't been to Dallas very much, I have the opinion that Houston and Dallas are more similar than each's residents would like to admit.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:34 am to LSUJuice
Houston, Dallas, and New Orleans all have had the First 48 filmed there.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:42 am to TigerWise
Houston had an incredible amout of growth in the 60's/70's and 90's. That brought alot of cheap labor to the area. To build homes/roads etc. that cheap labor is usually messicans. the 80's saw alot of depression and alot of the people that came here for jobs were out of work. then crime happens. that creates an effect over generations.
Houston was the also the first southern city to immediately remove all elements of segregation. The city officials then thought that segregation would be bad for recruiting new businesses to the area(doubt we would have NASA if this wasnt done) Incredible foresight by the city leaders then. That brought alot of blacks from around the south looking for jobs to the city to grow a family.
White flight has been happening in the city since the 60's.
that is the genesis of it.
Today Houston still has alot of blue collar jobs that is not attractive to everyone. THink oil rigs/construction etc.
You can assume away why we have bad neighborhoods and crime. (every city does BTW)
Austin benefits from alot of white collar jobs and a liberalism that is focused in the right way. Very accepting of other people and cultures. Even though there is alot of covert racism in the city/state government.
Dallas is right in between Houston in regards to what your talking about. dallas just has shitty people.
Houston was the also the first southern city to immediately remove all elements of segregation. The city officials then thought that segregation would be bad for recruiting new businesses to the area(doubt we would have NASA if this wasnt done) Incredible foresight by the city leaders then. That brought alot of blacks from around the south looking for jobs to the city to grow a family.
White flight has been happening in the city since the 60's.
that is the genesis of it.
Today Houston still has alot of blue collar jobs that is not attractive to everyone. THink oil rigs/construction etc.
You can assume away why we have bad neighborhoods and crime. (every city does BTW)
Austin benefits from alot of white collar jobs and a liberalism that is focused in the right way. Very accepting of other people and cultures. Even though there is alot of covert racism in the city/state government.
Dallas is right in between Houston in regards to what your talking about. dallas just has shitty people.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:45 am to cjared036
Interesting
Posted on 2/5/14 at 10:47 am to cjared036
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White flight has been happening in the city since the 60's.
Happened in many cities but now are seeing the exact opposite happening. At least in NOLA and Houston.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 10:48 am
Posted on 2/5/14 at 11:13 am to cjared036
One of the things about Dallas is that you are looking at the Dallas AREA (DFW to some) not just the City of Dallas. With Houston, since Houston is so much larger than its suburbs, its not really comparable to DFW in terms of how growth and urban issues are handled. In fact, it is probably more like New Orleans in that way...
Part of what I think people see in terms of similarities between Houston and New Orleans (aside from the Louisiana transplants) are the effects of weaker or non-existent suburbs as seen in Houston and New Orleans. Dallas has many more larger municipal governments that focus their attention on smaller areas. Houston and New Orleans are the respective 800 lb. gorillas in their areas. The "competition" between cities in those two areas is limited and Dallas does not see the demands on services that a Houston or New Orleans does because it has several relatively strong neighbors.
Take a look at these lists:
DFW Area (6,817,483)
13 Cities with 100,000 — 1,000,000+ inhabitants
Dallas (1,207,420)
Fort Worth (757,810)
Arlington (365,860)
Plano (261,900)
Garland (228,060)
Irving (218,850)
Grand Prairie (176,980)
Mesquite (139,950)
McKinney (136,180)
Frisco (125,500)
Carrollton (121,150)
Denton (115,810)
Richardson (100,450)
51 Cities with 10,000 to 99,999 inhabitants
Houston area (6,371,677))
1 City with more than 2,000,000 inhabitants
Houston (2,160,821)
2 Cities with 100,000 to 1,999,999 inhabitants
Pasadena (149,043)
Pearland (106,500)
29 Cities with 10,000 to 99,999 inhabitants
New Orleans area (1,167,764)
1 City with more than 300,000 inhabitants
New Orleans (369,250)
2 Cities with over 50,000 inhabitants
Kenner (66,702)
Metairie, unincorporated (138,481)
18 Cities/Places with 10,000 - 50,000 inhabitants
Part of what I think people see in terms of similarities between Houston and New Orleans (aside from the Louisiana transplants) are the effects of weaker or non-existent suburbs as seen in Houston and New Orleans. Dallas has many more larger municipal governments that focus their attention on smaller areas. Houston and New Orleans are the respective 800 lb. gorillas in their areas. The "competition" between cities in those two areas is limited and Dallas does not see the demands on services that a Houston or New Orleans does because it has several relatively strong neighbors.
Take a look at these lists:
DFW Area (6,817,483)
13 Cities with 100,000 — 1,000,000+ inhabitants
Dallas (1,207,420)
Fort Worth (757,810)
Arlington (365,860)
Plano (261,900)
Garland (228,060)
Irving (218,850)
Grand Prairie (176,980)
Mesquite (139,950)
McKinney (136,180)
Frisco (125,500)
Carrollton (121,150)
Denton (115,810)
Richardson (100,450)
51 Cities with 10,000 to 99,999 inhabitants
Houston area (6,371,677))
1 City with more than 2,000,000 inhabitants
Houston (2,160,821)
2 Cities with 100,000 to 1,999,999 inhabitants
Pasadena (149,043)
Pearland (106,500)
29 Cities with 10,000 to 99,999 inhabitants
New Orleans area (1,167,764)
1 City with more than 300,000 inhabitants
New Orleans (369,250)
2 Cities with over 50,000 inhabitants
Kenner (66,702)
Metairie, unincorporated (138,481)
18 Cities/Places with 10,000 - 50,000 inhabitants
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:42 pm to DelU249
it's not
Posted on 2/5/14 at 3:02 pm to DelU249
That element you don't see in Dallas/Austin have much more mobility in Houston/Atlanta.
That's both good and bad. Good that "the element" has a growing educated middle class. Bad that "the element" tends to overlook the misdeeds of some of its members, and also tends to break down societal barriers for themselves, only to open it up to the riff raff, ruining the fun for everyone.
That's both good and bad. Good that "the element" has a growing educated middle class. Bad that "the element" tends to overlook the misdeeds of some of its members, and also tends to break down societal barriers for themselves, only to open it up to the riff raff, ruining the fun for everyone.
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