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re: Thought it deserved its own thread: History photos (colored pre-war Nazi photos)
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:13 pm to DanW1
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:13 pm to DanW1
Very interesting pictures.
If you look at the flag that Hitler is grasping, you'll notice the swastika is a bit more thin than the ones on the other flags in the picture. Along with that the white field is a bit discolored. What he's got in his hand was the Nazi equivalent of the Holy Grail/Shroud of Turin. It was named the Blutfahne and was arguably the Nazis' most sacred relic. This was the Nazi Party flag that was supposedly carried during the 1923 Beer Hall Putsch. According to Nazi legend it was soaked in the the blood of the Nazis who were killed in the unsuccessful revolt.
What's happening in this picture is that as each of the new SS standards are brought to him, Hitler touches the old Blutfahne to the new flag as a sort of consecration ceremony.
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Adolf Hitler at the swearing-in of SS standard bearers at the Reich Party Congress, Nuremberg, 1938.
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If you look at the flag that Hitler is grasping, you'll notice the swastika is a bit more thin than the ones on the other flags in the picture. Along with that the white field is a bit discolored. What he's got in his hand was the Nazi equivalent of the Holy Grail/Shroud of Turin. It was named the Blutfahne and was arguably the Nazis' most sacred relic. This was the Nazi Party flag that was supposedly carried during the 1923 Beer Hall Putsch. According to Nazi legend it was soaked in the the blood of the Nazis who were killed in the unsuccessful revolt.
What's happening in this picture is that as each of the new SS standards are brought to him, Hitler touches the old Blutfahne to the new flag as a sort of consecration ceremony.
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:15 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Best logos, flags, unis ever.
Hugo Boss himself designed a lot of their uniforms. Yes, that Hugo Boss...
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:16 pm to Darth_Vader
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Yes, that Hugo Boss...
Did not know that. Very interesting.
This post was edited on 5/1/15 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:20 pm to upgrayedd
Definitely needs an "Oh you"
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:21 pm to Fun Bunch
Is that Ferdinand Porsche to Hitler's right?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:24 pm to Rebelgator
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This needs a caption.
Oh, Jew!
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:30 pm to Darth_Vader
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Hugo Boss himself designed a lot of their uniforms. Yes, that Hugo Boss...
I'd heard that but always thought it was a myth. I've actually heard lots of modern fashion companies are much older than you think.
I believe I read somewhere that Brooks Brothers or someone like that did the Unions uniforms or something like that.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:33 pm to upgrayedd
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Is that Ferdinand Porsche to Hitler's right?
That's him. In addition to designing the Volkswagen, he also designed armored vehicles for the Wehrmacht.
Elefant
VK4501 AKA Tiger (P) (This was an unsuccessful version of the Tiger I. The Henschel version was adopted)
And he closest things the German's had to a Jeep.
Kübelwagen
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:36 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Hugo Boss himself designed a lot of their uniforms. Yes, that Hugo Boss...
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I'd heard that but always thought it was a myth.
No, it's true....
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n 1924, Hugo Boss started a clothing company in Metzingen, a small town south of Stuttgart, where it is still based. Due to the economic climate of Germany at the time, Boss was forced into bankruptcy. In 1931, he reached an agreement with his creditors, leaving him with six sewing machines to start again.
That same year, he became a member of the Nazi Party and a sponsoring member ("Förderndes Mitglied") of the Schutzstaffel (SS). With their help, his economic situation improved. He also joined the German Labour Front in 1936, the Reich Air Protection Association in 1939, and the National Socialist People's Welfare in 1941. After joining these organizations, his sales increased from 38,260 RM ($26,993 U.S. dollars in 1932) to over 3,300,000 RM in 1941. His profits also increased in the same time period from 5,000 RM to 241,000 RM. Though he claimed in a 1934-1935 advertisement that he had been a "supplier for National Socialist uniforms since 1924," it is probable that he did not begin to supply them until 1928 at the earliest. This is the year he became an Reichszeugmeisterei-licensed (official) supplier of uniforms to the Sturmabteilung, Schutzstaffel, Hitler Youth, National Socialist Motor Corps, and other party organizations. For production in later years of the war, Hugo Boss used prisoners of war and forced labourers, from the Baltic States, Belgium, France, Italy, Austria, Poland, Czechoslovakia, and the Soviet Union.[2] According to German historian Henning Kober, the company managers were fervent Nazis who were all great admirers of Adolf Hitler. In 1945 Hugo Boss had a photograph in his apartment of him with Hitler, taken at Hitler's Obersalzberg retreat.
LINK
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:41 pm to tiggerthetooth
link?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:42 pm to Darth_Vader
Weren't the Tiger's over-engineered to the point where they were almost impossible to fix in the field?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:47 pm to upgrayedd
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Weren't the Tiger's over-engineered to the point where they were almost impossible to fix in the field?
Not easy to maintain, plus they broke down more often than the simpler Russian tanks. The Porsche Tiger, as mentioned, was a disaster.
Still, the Tiger was The Beast on the battlefield. Just an awesome piece of military machinery.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:48 pm to upgrayedd
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Weren't the Tiger's over-engineered to the point where they were almost impossible to fix in the field?
Indeed they were. Tank for tank as long as they were running, the Germans made the best tanks in the world hands down. They were too complicated though. And on top of this, the Panther and Elfant (Ferdinand) were rushed into service to be available for the Summer offensive in the East in 1943 (Battle of Kursk) and many broke down and had to be abandoned.
This post was edited on 5/1/15 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:50 pm to TigerPanzer
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Not easy to maintain, plus they broke down more often than the simpler Russian tanks. The Porsche Tiger, as mentioned, was a disaster.
Still, the Tiger was The Beast on the battlefield. Just an awesome piece of military machinery
I hear there was a particular sprocket on the drive gear that was a big weak point?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:53 pm to upgrayedd
The whole drive train was a weak point. The transmission struggled due to the massive weight of the tank.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:54 pm to Darth_Vader
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Elfant
Had no machine gun if I recall correctly, leaving it completely unprotected against attacks by individual soldiers. WTF?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:56 pm to TigerPanzer
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Elfant
Had no machine gun if I recall correctly, leaving it completely unprotected against attacks by individual soldiers. WTF?
The original batch sent to the east in 43 to take part in the summer offensive lacked any defensive MGs and this made them highly vulnerable to Soviet tank hunting squads. Many of them were lost due to this fact. Later on editions had a bow gun added. The one in the picture I posted is a later version that has a bow gun.
This post was edited on 5/1/15 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:57 pm to Darth_Vader
Did the US steal any of the suspension technology?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 3:01 pm to Fun Bunch
He's got the Mr. Bean Pose going.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 3:02 pm to upgrayedd
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by upgrayedd Did the US steal any of the suspension technology?
We took several Getman tanks back to the U.S. during and after the war for study. We never used a direct copy of the Tiger suspension but the independent bogie system the Germans used is very similar to what was used on the M48, M60, and M1.
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