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re: The vocal minority tries to make Disney princess a lesbian
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:49 pm to fr33manator
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:49 pm to fr33manator
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Wtf are you talking about? Are you denying the most basic tenets of biology? Acknowledging the basic fact of life makes someone "breeding stock"?
STOP SHOVING YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS DOWN OUR THROATS!
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:51 pm to OMLandshark
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There's a lot more to it than simply acting like a man with her.
How does she act like a man at all?
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Elsa though, the Prince himself fairly clearly implies he thinks she's a lesbo
I've seen it countless times with my daughters - both before and after the gay allegory claims started to roll in from some crazed Mormon woman's blog - and I can unequivocally tell you that if you want it to be a pro-lesbian themed movie, it can be. However, if you aren't actively looking for some kind of hidden agenda, you won't find it, and if it is that hidden, then is it really there in the first place?
The people who are so certain that Disney presented this as a pro-lesbian themed movie are not too far removed from the anti-vaxxers and other conspiracy nuts IMO.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:51 pm to fr33manator
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Wtf are you talking about? Are you denying the most basic tenets of biology? Acknowledging the basic fact of life makes someone "breeding stock"?
Pretty sure his point was that there's more to relationships then just shitting out kids
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:51 pm to Grim
Alex the androgoneous asexual amoeba is not the Disney princess in question.....
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:51 pm to slackster
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Also, what is so blatantly obvious about it? I've read all of the articles and blogs that try to suggest it was obvious when that is simply not the case.
Like, everything. She's clearly not into men, she's hiding a secret that's tearing her apart emotionally, the whole community shuns her once they find out, she's become a cold she bitch over the years (known as a psycho lesbian on TV tropes), she's shut herself off from the world, any given random line in Let It Go, and especially "Conceal, don't feel". I wonder how many well meaning fundamentalist parents have told their gay kids that in the past? Millions I'd imagine.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:52 pm to slackster
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those same subtexts can be found in plenty of animated films
EXACTLY
i've heard people say that Lion King was basically a kids version of Hamlet
thats crazy
Lion King is about animals, Hamlet is about people
ridiculous
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:53 pm to Ash Williams
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:54 pm to Ash Williams
Zootopia was the first furry Disney animated film so I can see Disney catering to other fetishes such as homosexuality in the near future as well.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:55 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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relationships
You can't depict relationships without depicting sexuality? I would assume that's exactly what a children's movie should do.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:55 pm to DanMullins4Life
Zootopia had serious race relations as it's undertones IMO.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:56 pm to Grim
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Pretty sure his point was that there's more to relationships then just shitting out kids
Where did I argue differently? And there are all sorts of relationships, not all of which are sexual in nature.
That doesn't change the fact that offspring, and in essences every one of us, are here because of the natural way of life, a sperm and an egg.
It's not "Hetero" as if there were some viable alternative to reproduction. It's normal. Settled science.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:56 pm to slackster
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How does she act like a man at all?
That's the literal plot of Mulan. She's trying to act like a man, and mostly failing. That's my point when I say I don't think she's gay at all, and is simply trying to spare her father.
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I've seen it countless times with my daughters - both before and after the gay allegory claims started to roll in from some crazed Mormon woman's blog - and I can unequivocally tell you that if you want it to be a pro-lesbian themed movie, it can be. However, if you aren't actively looking for some kind of hidden agenda, you won't find it, and if it is that hidden, then is it really there in the first place?
I just have a hard time believing this wasn't at least some sort of theme with Frozen. It's within the subtext, and Disney has never been shy about that subtext. For frick's sake, this is the same company that does Gay Day. They are a target market for them, even if they will stay far enough away to make one of the princesses openly gay.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:57 pm to OMLandshark
She is fighting to save her father. She was interested in the captain. Mulan was not a lesbian
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:58 pm to OMLandshark
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Like, everything. She's clearly not into men, she's hiding a secret that's tearing her apart emotionally, the whole community shuns her once they find out, she's become a cold she bitch over the years (known as a psycho lesbian on TV tropes), she's shut herself off from the world, any given random line in Let It Go, and especially "Conceal, don't feel". I wonder how many well meaning fundamentalist parents have told their gay kids that in the past? Millions I'd imagine.
She's also a princess in a made up land that shoots ice out of her finger tips. There is a talking snowman and an icy monster that guards a castle made out of ice. You say she's clearly not into men, but she is also clearly not into women. When you consider the movie on the whole it gets a bit ridiculous to assign any underlying message.
As I've said before, if you want her to be lesbian, you can see it that way, but to walk away after a viewing and believe you just watched some lesbian allegory is nuts to me.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:59 pm to Displaced
If LGBT people want a movie with LGBT characters, why can't they make it? What is stopping them? Why do they have to force what they want onto something they don't have any ownership of?
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:59 pm to Turbeauxdog
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You can't depict relationships without depicting sexuality? I would assume that's exactly what a children's movie should do.
Absolutely you can and you should, but to suggest that Disney have a brave princess kiss the girl at the end is "teaching your kids about sexuality" would imply that having a brave prince kiss the girl would do the same.
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fr33manator
I don't count on Disney to teach my kids biology, and I can't think of single Disney princess that taught my kids about reproduction, so I'm not sure why you even brought it up in this thread.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:00 pm to Displaced
I understand them wanting respect as human beings. But they just won't leave anything alone.
Homo's are constantly trying to figure out ways to merge into everyday society. Frozen sure looked like an out of the closet attempt but leave it at what it is now. To little kids they just see pretty princesses and animation.
But quit trying to insinuate yourselves into everyday childrens faire. It's not needed.
They'll learn about whatever the frick you do soon enough.
Homo's are constantly trying to figure out ways to merge into everyday society. Frozen sure looked like an out of the closet attempt but leave it at what it is now. To little kids they just see pretty princesses and animation.
But quit trying to insinuate yourselves into everyday childrens faire. It's not needed.
They'll learn about whatever the frick you do soon enough.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:03 pm to OMLandshark
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That's the literal plot of Mulan. She's trying to act like a man, and mostly failing. That's my point when I say I don't think she's gay at all, and is simply trying to spare her father.
Ahh, the way you said it in your post seemed to imply that there was more to Elsa being lesbian than just acting like a man, as if she was also acting like a man.
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I just have a hard time believing this wasn't at least some sort of theme with Frozen.
Of course, it is about being different. That same theme has been used COUNTLESS times in other works and will continue to be used. I just find it crazy that we're going to designate this story as the one where being different = gay.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:05 pm to colorchangintiger
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Why do they have to force what they want onto something they don't have any ownership of?
You've got a really broad definition of "force".
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:07 pm to slackster
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You say she's clearly not into men, but she is also clearly not into women.
Well to be fair to my point, who in this movie is she going to be into? Her sister? The woman troll? There aren't really any other women in the movie for her to be interested in.
Plus the movie wasn't about Elsa falling in love. It was about a sister trying to save the other out of a spiraling depression. I can see how gay themes go with the later.
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