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The self-driving Uber in the Arizona crash was hit crossing an intersection on yellow

Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:44 am
Posted by RedRifle
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:44 am

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The self-driving Uber was not at fault when the accident occurred, according to a spokesperson for the Tempe, Arizona police department. But the incident shows how humans may still be better equipped to handle some complex driving scenarios where the rules of the road shouldn't necessarily apply.

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Alexandra Cole, the driver of the Honda CR-V, was attempting to make a left turn across three lanes of traffic when the accident occurred. Cole managed to drive across the first two lanes, which were backed up with cars, and thought she was clear to cross the third. "As far as I could tell, the third lane had no one coming in it so I was clear to make my turn," Cole said in the police report. "Right as I got to the middle lane about to cross the third I saw a car flying through the intersection, but couldn't brake fast enough to completely avoid collision." Uber's self-driving Volvo was driving through a yellow light at 38 mph, just below the speed limit, when it was hit by the Honda. The Uber then drove into a traffic pole and flipped onto its side as a result of the collision. No one was seriously injured in the accident.

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Patrick Murphy, the Uber employee behind the wheel of the self-driving car, wrote in the report that he saw the Honda turning left, but that there was "no time to react" as traffic in the first two lanes had created a blind spot. In terms of programming, the self-driving Uber did everything by the book. It had the right of way approaching a yellow light, and therefore zipped right through. But one has to wonder whether a human driver, approaching the busy intersection while the light was turning yellow, may have slowed down

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:46 am to
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t, but that there was "no time to react" as traffic in the first two lanes had created a blind spot.


I would have been able to avoid it. this dude was probably playing with his phone
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:47 am to
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Alexandra Cole, the driver of the Honda CR-V, was attempting to make a left turn across three lanes of traffic when the accident occurred.
Posted by Pintail
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:48 am to
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But one has to wonder whether a human driver, approaching the busy intersection while the light was turning yellow, may have slowed down


Defensive driving 101
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:48 am to
Woman pulls out in front of self-driving car. Self-driving car hits woman. Somehow the self-driving car is under scrutiny.

FLYING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION... going under the speed limit.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 10:49 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:48 am to
if it was a human, they would have sped up to make the light and there wouldn't have been an accident
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:49 am to
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I saw a car flying through the intersection


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driving through a yellow light at 38 mph, just below the speed limit,


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But one has to wonder whether a human driver, approaching the busy intersection while the light was turning yellow, may have slowed down


More likely that a human driver wouldve been speeding already even if they did slow down. Also sounds like an intersection where left turns should only be protected not permitted if there is a sight distance issue. Having to cross 3 lanes to make a left? Eeesh
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 10:50 am
Posted by BeerMoney
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:49 am to
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The self-driving Uber was not at fault when the accident occurred, according to a spokesperson for the Tempe, Arizona police department. But the incident shows how humans may still be better equipped to handle some complex driving scenarios where the rules of the road shouldn't necessarily apply.


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Alexandra Cole,



Cop taking up for stupid woman driver who hit a legally driving Uberbot.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:50 am to
Also, if all cars were self driving, this wouldn't happen.

FYI, FWIW.
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:51 am to
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if it was a human, they would have sped up to make the light and there wouldn't have been an accident
Or the accident would have been much worse...
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:51 am to
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But one has to wonder whether a human driver, approaching the busy intersection while the light was turning yellow, may have slowed down


Not this human.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:52 am to
I think there's still more to come out about this story on TD.



Posted by Bayoumike
Member since Mar 2017
647 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:52 am to
It sounds like nobody was driving Alexandra Cole's car, either.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:53 am to
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I saw a car flying through the intersection


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Uber's self-driving Volvo was driving through a yellow light at 38 mph, just below the speed limit,


Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:54 am to
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Or the accident would have been much worse...


haven't been in an accident in 17 years.

had 2 first 3 months driving
Posted by gorillacoco
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:03 am to
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"We saw the [Honda] car, it was coming fine on her end, but the other person just wanted to beat the light and kept going," a witness wrote in the police report. "All I want to say is it was good on the end of the [Honda] driving toward us, it was the other driver's fault [Uber] for trying to beat the light and hitting the gas so hard."


This witness needs to get punched in the face.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:05 am to
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haven't been in an accident in 17 years.

had 2 first 3 months driving
Wrecked my share of parent's cars as a teen for sure...
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:06 am to
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This witness needs to get punched in the face.

Truth.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20895 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:10 am to
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But the incident shows how humans may still be better equipped to handle some complex driving scenarios where the rules of the road shouldn't necessarily apply.


Is there another set of rules they should be going by? who wrote this?
Posted by foshizzle
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Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:11 am to
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Uber's self-driving Volvo was driving through a yellow light at 38 mph, just below the speed limit,



If it was passing through two lanes of nonmoving traffic and couldn't see if a car might be cutting through, then 38 is too fast. The speed limit is irrelevant here.

I'll add that a human driver (a semi-decent one anyway) would also have noticed any pedestrian crossing signals and noted whether they had a countdown. That may not apply here though. But that countdown, when present, is a pretty good way to tell if the light is about to turn yellow.
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