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The self-driving Uber in the Arizona crash was hit crossing an intersection on yellow
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:44 am
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:44 am
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The self-driving Uber was not at fault when the accident occurred, according to a spokesperson for the Tempe, Arizona police department. But the incident shows how humans may still be better equipped to handle some complex driving scenarios where the rules of the road shouldn't necessarily apply.
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Alexandra Cole, the driver of the Honda CR-V, was attempting to make a left turn across three lanes of traffic when the accident occurred. Cole managed to drive across the first two lanes, which were backed up with cars, and thought she was clear to cross the third. "As far as I could tell, the third lane had no one coming in it so I was clear to make my turn," Cole said in the police report. "Right as I got to the middle lane about to cross the third I saw a car flying through the intersection, but couldn't brake fast enough to completely avoid collision." Uber's self-driving Volvo was driving through a yellow light at 38 mph, just below the speed limit, when it was hit by the Honda. The Uber then drove into a traffic pole and flipped onto its side as a result of the collision. No one was seriously injured in the accident.
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Patrick Murphy, the Uber employee behind the wheel of the self-driving car, wrote in the report that he saw the Honda turning left, but that there was "no time to react" as traffic in the first two lanes had created a blind spot. In terms of programming, the self-driving Uber did everything by the book. It had the right of way approaching a yellow light, and therefore zipped right through. But one has to wonder whether a human driver, approaching the busy intersection while the light was turning yellow, may have slowed down
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:46 am to RedRifle
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t, but that there was "no time to react" as traffic in the first two lanes had created a blind spot.
I would have been able to avoid it. this dude was probably playing with his phone
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:47 am to RedRifle
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Alexandra Cole, the driver of the Honda CR-V, was attempting to make a left turn across three lanes of traffic when the accident occurred.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:48 am to RedRifle
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But one has to wonder whether a human driver, approaching the busy intersection while the light was turning yellow, may have slowed down
Defensive driving 101
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:48 am to RedRifle
Woman pulls out in front of self-driving car. Self-driving car hits woman. Somehow the self-driving car is under scrutiny.
FLYING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION... going under the speed limit.
FLYING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION... going under the speed limit.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 10:49 am
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:48 am to Pintail
if it was a human, they would have sped up to make the light and there wouldn't have been an accident
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:49 am to RedRifle
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I saw a car flying through the intersection
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driving through a yellow light at 38 mph, just below the speed limit,
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But one has to wonder whether a human driver, approaching the busy intersection while the light was turning yellow, may have slowed down
More likely that a human driver wouldve been speeding already even if they did slow down. Also sounds like an intersection where left turns should only be protected not permitted if there is a sight distance issue. Having to cross 3 lanes to make a left? Eeesh
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 10:50 am
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:49 am to RedRifle
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The self-driving Uber was not at fault when the accident occurred, according to a spokesperson for the Tempe, Arizona police department. But the incident shows how humans may still be better equipped to handle some complex driving scenarios where the rules of the road shouldn't necessarily apply.
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Alexandra Cole,
Cop taking up for stupid woman driver who hit a legally driving Uberbot.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:50 am to BeerMoney
Also, if all cars were self driving, this wouldn't happen.
FYI, FWIW.
FYI, FWIW.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:51 am to Nado Jenkins83
quote:Or the accident would have been much worse...
if it was a human, they would have sped up to make the light and there wouldn't have been an accident
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:51 am to RedRifle
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But one has to wonder whether a human driver, approaching the busy intersection while the light was turning yellow, may have slowed down
Not this human.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:52 am to RedRifle
I think there's still more to come out about this story on TD.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:52 am to RedRifle
It sounds like nobody was driving Alexandra Cole's car, either.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:53 am to RedRifle
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I saw a car flying through the intersection
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Uber's self-driving Volvo was driving through a yellow light at 38 mph, just below the speed limit,
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:54 am to The Mick
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Or the accident would have been much worse...
haven't been in an accident in 17 years.
had 2 first 3 months driving
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:03 am to RedRifle
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"We saw the [Honda] car, it was coming fine on her end, but the other person just wanted to beat the light and kept going," a witness wrote in the police report. "All I want to say is it was good on the end of the [Honda] driving toward us, it was the other driver's fault [Uber] for trying to beat the light and hitting the gas so hard."
This witness needs to get punched in the face.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:05 am to Nado Jenkins83
quote:Wrecked my share of parent's cars as a teen for sure...
haven't been in an accident in 17 years.
had 2 first 3 months driving
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:06 am to gorillacoco
quote:Truth.
This witness needs to get punched in the face.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:10 am to RedRifle
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But the incident shows how humans may still be better equipped to handle some complex driving scenarios where the rules of the road shouldn't necessarily apply.
Is there another set of rules they should be going by? who wrote this?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:11 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Uber's self-driving Volvo was driving through a yellow light at 38 mph, just below the speed limit,
If it was passing through two lanes of nonmoving traffic and couldn't see if a car might be cutting through, then 38 is too fast. The speed limit is irrelevant here.
I'll add that a human driver (a semi-decent one anyway) would also have noticed any pedestrian crossing signals and noted whether they had a countdown. That may not apply here though. But that countdown, when present, is a pretty good way to tell if the light is about to turn yellow.
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