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re: The Hill's Star - Spencer Pratt - Now Jiu Jitsu Champ

Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:58 pm to
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It sucks that a douchebag with such a punchable face can kick my arse.


GD ain't that the truth.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10421 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:59 pm to
I'm a Purple Belt in BJJ. Probably would be a Black Belt but I spent the first 3 years doing no-gi grappling so I never picked up rank. However I can tap a lot of Black Belts. Less than 3% of White Belts that start in BJJ even make it to Purple and it usually takes 2-3 years to make that rank.

This is also a legit tournament.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:00 pm to
yeah i thought purple was before black for some reason

apply what i said to brown belts
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68450 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:06 pm to
Doesn't progression also depend on what school, such as machado, Gracie barra, etc? I'm sure there are some slight differences in curriculum and philosophy
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10421 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:12 pm to
Progression is about the same for most Gracie/Gracie Barra schools. I know several Carlos Machado black belts and they are the same. It usually takes 5-6 years of solid mat time to make black belt.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1944 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:16 pm to
It's a huge accomplishment to win first place in a purple belt division. At Blue belt athleticism can really be a huge advantage, at purple the skill set really negates athleticism. He probably did compete in a Masters division, which is mid 30s. Still it seems he is quite legit, and would be a good training partner for most UFC/mma fighters. There are local guys that I roll with, who I see compete get second or third, and I just have no clue how they don't win first.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10421 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:35 pm to
Agree, winning this division in Masters or not is quite a feat at this tournament.
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8060 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
8631 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:40 pm to
Belts in karate are a weird thing. My little cousin is a green belt or something. I have no belt, but he wouldn't stand a chance against me. He's 9 and weighs like 60 pounds.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22408 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:40 pm to
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In an ideal setting a purple belt bjj guy (who knows no other grappling, and isn't sand bagged) should never beat a black belt



This isnt correct for a myriad of reasons. A purple belt under Marcelo Garcia is most likely going to be better than 90% of black belts from the Jiu Jitsu gyms in the old mall.

Plus maybe one guy has a nasty heel hook or omoplata and is just an ace at that one move. And if you arent keyed into defending that and worried about the kimura or some other shite he sucks at, you gonna get got.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20432 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:44 pm to
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Plus maybe one guy has a nasty heel hook or omoplata and is just an ace at that one move. And if you arent keyed into defending that and worried about the kimura or some other shite he sucks at, you gonna get got.


I see your point, but is that normal for a purple belt to win or place in tournaments like this?

It seems absurd to me that a guy that would win a tournament in literally beating the other guy up is a lower tier belt than others that just know the moves but not how to use them.

At some point someone needs to say this guy is a BA because he would kick your A, not because he knows how to do every single move perfectly.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22408 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

beating the other guy up is a lower tier belt than others that just know the moves but not how to use them.



Again, there is a reason you usually hear "Guy has a ___ belt under ____". The teacher matters almost as much as the color.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10421 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:09 pm to
Purple Belts only compete against other Purple Belts in gi. Same for Blue mostly and White although I have seen some high stripe Whites move up to Blue. Every once in a while a Brown will compete in a Black Belt division but that's usually in small tournaments where there may be only a few Black Belts. No gi is where you may get a wide variety of different skill sets where a Blue that might only train no-gi rolls with a Purple or a Brown.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:14 pm to
I thought he declared bankruptcy?
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:19 pm to
Good for Spencer, did she finally stop getting plastic surgery?
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

I thought he declared bankruptcy?


Is that an impediment to training BJJ?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52964 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:39 pm to
I could beat his arse
Posted by Abadeebadaba
LSU fan @ FSU
Member since Sep 2010
4983 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:49 pm to
Just for reference, Abu Dhabi tournaments are a result of you winning a tournament at the regional level. No slaps can just compete in Abu Dhabi. Good accomplishment for him.
Posted by Abadeebadaba
LSU fan @ FSU
Member since Sep 2010
4983 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:53 pm to
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I know several Carlos Machado black belts and they are the same. It usually takes 5-6 years of solid mat time to make black belt.
MWP where do you train at? Is it a Gracie school? Just asking because of your sig.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:56 pm to
Everyone's seen you at Freds. You definitely could.
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