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re: The High Cost of a Home Is Turning American Millennials Into the New Serfs

Posted on 8/21/17 at 4:51 pm to
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29450 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 4:51 pm to
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major in Androgynous Non-binary Leisure Studies, rack up $200k in student loans and then complain about the job market.

Sweet straw-man argument.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11799 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 4:52 pm to
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bullshite. They just refuse to live within there means.

I've seen picture of the house my parents had until I was 5. It was a tiny 1 story shithole starter home way out in the suburbs.

Millennial dips hits keep trying to match the lifestyle their 50/60yr old parents currently have. Not possible morons.


This. this generation wants the house, SUV, boat, and lifestyle they parents finally got to achieve when their kids moved out of the house., but they want it a 24
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55443 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 4:52 pm to
You can buy a badass yurt for like 15k
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112579 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 4:52 pm to
We're talking about millennials in general, not people who live in Youngsville.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 4:52 pm to
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How about accounting for how millennials drive for success is complete shite compared to past generations? Everyone believes they're entitled to shite and they don't work for it.


Without arguing with your point, you do realize it was your generation that raised millennials right? The 40-60 year old crowd wants to blame everything on millennials, but they're the ones that taught them to act like they do.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260191 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 4:53 pm to
Jesus Christ kids. Welcome to the real world and stop being victims
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84760 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 4:55 pm to
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Millennials can afford the house, the sorry little turds don't want sacrifice not having the latest cellphone, Macbook, and foodie subscription service.


They don't make the same money on an inflation adjusted basis as generations before them. Your point is irrelevant.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55443 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 4:57 pm to
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They don't make the same money on an inflation adjusted basis as generations before them. Your point is irrelevant.



While this is true, I believe that % of income for all non-house goods has dropped...we just have more goods than we ever did before.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62869 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 4:58 pm to
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Jesus Christ kids. Welcome to the real world and stop being victims


It looks like the article is using data to show this is a new real world compared to earlier generations.

In other words, you don't know the real world as millennials are experiencing it.

Whatever your response to that, just understand that your post doesn't necessarily make sense.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37047 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 5:00 pm to
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This is what happens when you grow up being told that you're a winner (even when you lose) and can do anything you want in life, sky is the limit.

No, the sky is not the limit. You have very real limits, along with very real strengths. You should take into account both when deciding on a career. You should also focus on a career that allows you to support yourself financially after school. You can't major in Androgynous Non-binary Leisure Studies, rack up $200k in student loans and then complain about the job market


Sounds like an entire generation decided to not actually act like parents. Same generation that is running the country right now. And we wonder why we have problems.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 5:01 pm to
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The average millennial goes to state school and majors in something like communications, education, engineering, accounting, etc. The gender studies thing is such a rare example.


It was an example of a worthless liberal arts degree. The problem is that we have more people going to school now. Everyone believes they need to go to school, even if they aren't particularly good at school. With more students and more worthless liberal arts degrees, there are also more graduates with huge debt they can't repay because they can't get jobs and never considered learning an actual skill.

My point is that if you have a worthwhile degree and aren't lazy, you can find a job.

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A large chasm has opened between the fates of young liberal-arts majors and their peers in STEM (science, tech, engineering, and math) fields. The former are struggling to find work that pays, at least before their late twenties. The latter are mostly finding lucrative work after they graduate.


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Which young people are going into these less skilled, lower-paid jobs? Humanities majors, it seems. Liberal-arts majors “are two to three times more likely to be underemployed than those with engineering or nursing majors,” the authors found.

Indeed, the gap between humanities and STEM students is striking. Underemployment afflicts more than 50 percent of majors in the performing arts, anthropology, art history, history, communications, political science, sociology, philosophy, psychology, and international affairs.


These people think it's someone else's fault they can't find work.

The Atlantic: Economic woe of millennials
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 5:01 pm to
Ahhhhh, the thread where I get told I'm a piece of shite because I was born in year 'x'

Love this thread.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84760 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 5:02 pm to
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It looks like the article is using data to show this is a new real world compared to earlier generations.

In other words, you don't know the real world as millennials are experiencing it.

Whatever your response to that, just understand that your post doesn't necessarily make sense


Well said.

The numbers are pretty clear on wages, but these anti-millenial comments are predictable.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70898 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 5:02 pm to
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I've seen picture of the house my parents had until I was 5. It was a tiny 1 story shithole starter home way out in the suburbs.


Solid sample size, and insight. Will bookmark to show those millyneals when I hear them bitching.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112579 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 5:02 pm to
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My point is that if you have a worthwhile degree and aren't lazy, you can find a job.



Right. But that doesn't mean that millennials want any part of the suburban lifestyle.
Posted by geauxengineering
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
261 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 5:03 pm to
We live under socialism which is you can keep the property but we tax you to death. But Socialism is dying across the West and politician are kicking and screaming trying to hold onto their socialist dream which is going bankrupt.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20490 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 5:04 pm to
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Nobody is building small homes like that anymore.


There are tens of millions of them already built.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37047 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 5:05 pm to
Most millennials don't want things - they surely don't want a McMansion in the burbs.

Most of them don't go to private school and run up debt for stupid majors. Most just want to go to LSU before the state legislature (hey - guess what generation they are part of) decided it no longer gives a shat about education.

Yes... some of the millennials eat way too much avocado toast and act like spoiled little turds - but that's a small percentage of the group. Most of them want to start moving up the corporate ladder - but they are blocked by the 55 and 60 year olds who just realized they need to start saving for retirement.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84760 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 5:05 pm to
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My point is that if you have a worthwhile degree and aren't lazy, you can find a job.


And the article's point is that lazy people had it better in 1980. Hard workers had it better too.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 5:05 pm to
How does that refute what I said re:
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More millennials, notes a recent White House report, face far longer period of unemployment and suffer low rates of labor participation. More than 20 percent of people 18 to 34 live in poverty, up from 14 percent in 1980.
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