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The FDA approves clinical trials for medical use of MDMA for PTSD

Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:59 pm
Posted by HornsLife
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Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:59 pm
MDMA for PTSD

Americans suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD, may soon be able to alleviate their symptoms with MDMA, also known as ecstasy.

On Tuesday, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration green-lighted Phase 3 clinical trials of the otherwise illegal party drug, which is the final step before potentially approving it for medical use, the New York Times reported.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:01 pm to
And people said marijuana wasn't a gateway drug we're screwed as a country.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:03 pm to
This seems like a terrible idea. It would make me feel good for a while, but after coming down off of it I would always sink into a deep, deep depression-like state. I imagine this reaction would only be worse in someone with PTSD. What do they do once popping ecstasy no longer gives them the high?
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:04 pm to
i am a contributor to MAPS (who is doing most of the studies).

I was actually submitted to participate in one of their studies, but didn't meet their requirements.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:04 pm to
I'm pretty sure the drug was invented for use during therapy sessions so this seems extremely logical.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

I was actually submitted to participate in one of their studies, but didn't meet their requirements.


If you need someone to traumatize you so you qualify, please let me know.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:05 pm to
Not being able to smoke pot has given me PTSD, Thanks Obama.
Posted by tigeralum06
Member since Oct 2007
2788 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:05 pm to
I think my ptsd from Katrina is actin up again.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

This seems like a terrible idea. It would make me feel good for a while, but after coming down off of it I would always sink into a deep, deep depression-like state. I imagine this reaction would only be worse in someone with PTSD. What do they do once popping ecstacy no longer gives them the high?

they use it as a tool in therapy to break through blocks. its not about making you high, but really addressing your life.

they are trying the smae thing with mushrooms, and other psychedelics.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

If you need someone to traumatize you so you qualify, please let me know.




They were only taking first responders in phase 2. Can you see me being a first responder? frick no.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:10 pm to
hell yeah!!!
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50496 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

they use it as a tool in therapy to break through blocks. its not about making you high, but really addressing your life.


Sure, but the effect ecstasy has on people is extremely appealing. This seems like it would have a high opportunity for addiction, and then folks will just naturally move on to heroin so they can try to get the high they no longer achieve with ecstasy. Let's not pretend that this mdma will just magically not get people high.

quote:

they are trying the smae thing with mushrooms, and other psychedelics.


Mushrooms make more sense. It isn't the same type of high, and the effect isn't as appealing. Seems like there would be less of a chance for addiction through such a treatment. Dropping acid to treat it, on the other hand, would be a bad idea.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Sure, but the effect ecstasy has on people is extremely appealing. This seems like it would have a high opportunity for addiction, and then folks will just naturally move on to heroin so they can try to get the same high.


well MDMA addiction is a thing, the issue is that you actually won't get high if you do it too close to your last dose. I think the risk for addiction is relatively low.
quote:

Mushrooms make more sense. It isn't the same type of high, and the effect isn't as appealing. Seems like there would be less of a chance for addiction through such a treatment. Dropping acid to treat it, on the other hand, would be a bad idea.


well I dunno about any of that, but they are trying new things. early results are very positive.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

Sure, but the effect ecstasy has on people is extremely appealing. This seems like it would have a high opportunity for addiction, and then folks will just naturally move on to heroin so they can try to get the high they no longer achieve with ecstasy. Let's not pretend that this mdma will just magically not get people high.

quote:
they are trying the smae thing with mushrooms, and other psychedelics.


Mushrooms make more sense. It isn't the same type of high, and the effect isn't as appealing. Seems like there would be less of a chance for addiction through such a treatment. Dropping acid to treat it, on the other hand, would be a bad idea.


Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50496 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:14 pm to
I have done very many drugs in my day.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50496 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

well MDMA addiction is a thing, the issue is that you actually won't get high if you do it too close to your last dose. I think the risk for addiction is relatively low.


I mean...sure. If we believe people will use drugs exactly as prescribed and no doctors will misdiagnose PTSD so they can write prescriptions for it. Surely we don't believe that?
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 2:17 pm
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

have done very many drugs in my day.


You think that makes you cool? Huh, cool guy?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50496 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

You think that makes you cool? Huh, cool guy?


Nah. Drugs are dumb. I was just answering the question posed by the other poster's meme.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 2:25 pm
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Drugs are dumb. I


You're goddamn right they are, and don't let me catch you saying otherwise. Drugs are for losers, and REAL cool guys stay clean.
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