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The Columbia space shuttle disaster

Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:07 pm
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:07 pm
I was watching programs today on the Smithonian Channel about both space shuttle disasters. While talking about the Columbia, they said that a big piece of foam fell from the shuttle at liftoff and suspected that fatal damage occurred that would prevent a successful reentry, but the crew wasn't informed.
My question is; if you had been one of the astronauts, would you have preferred to know about the damage and have the entire mission to ponder an almost certain death, or be left in the dark?
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:09 pm to
Left in the dark. There was nothing that could be done. It was just hoping and praying that the foam chunk didn't do too much harm.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:10 pm to
Left in the dark unless you believe somehow the minds on that ship were brighter than all the ones it took to put them there.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:11 pm to
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Left in the dark. There was nothing that could be done. It was just hoping and praying that the foam chunk didn't do too much harm.


I was thinking that if perhaps they knew in advance, they could have possibly written letters to their love ones and sealed it some way in hopes of preserving them?
Posted by gorillacoco
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:13 pm to
I would have wanted to know. They should have told them after the bulk of the mission but before re-entry began. Hell at least they could write a letter or maybe even radio their loved ones.
Posted by MottLaneKid
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:14 pm to
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Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:15 pm to
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I would have wanted to know. They should have told them after the bulk of the mission but before re-entry began. Hell at least they could write a letter or maybe even radio their loved ones.


That's my way of thinking.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:15 pm to
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The horrific story is that these astronauts were alive during the free fall


That's the story I've heard as well. They speculate that some sort of escape pod could have saved them?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:16 pm to
I can't remember what year it was. Or how old I was. But dammit I remember being in the target on Millerville with my parents watching it on the TVs on the electronics section.
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:17 pm to
Was there absolutely no way to repair the suspected damage? Like meet up with the ISS?
Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:17 pm to
I apologize . I think I got the 1986 disaster mixed up with the 2003 disaster. My reference was to the 1986 explosion. My apologies.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:18 pm to
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I can't remember what year it was. Or how old I was. But dammit I remember being in the target on Millerville with my parents watching it on the TVs on the electronics section.


You must be talking about the Challenger disaster, because there was no live tv coverage of the Columbia explosion.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:19 pm to
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Was there absolutely no way to repair the suspected damage? Like meet up with the ISS?


That's a valid quesrion?
Posted by PaperPaintball92
Fly Navy
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:20 pm to
Left in the dark. I wouldn't want to worry during the coolest and last experience of my life.
Posted by wal marks
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:22 pm to
I'm Ron Burgundy?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

You must be talking about the Challenger disaster, because there was no live tv coverage of the Columbia explosion.


Nope. I'm thinking of the Columbia one. It might not have been live, but I absolutely remember watching it on TV the day it happened.

Wasn't Alive for challenger.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76529 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:24 pm to
For most missions, the shuttle could have simply docked with the International Space Station (ISS) and used it as a lifeboat. However, this particular shuttle mission was in a completely different orbit to the ISS – and neither had sufficient engine power to change their flightpath.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58055 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:30 pm to
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Nope. I'm thinking of the Columbia one. It might not have been live, but I absolutely remember watching it on TV the day it happened.


You didn't see it live, because there was no live coverage. Later after the accident, amateur video emerged showing the Columbia falling apart leaving a trail of fiery sparks. This might have been what you saw?
Posted by Bluefin
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:32 pm to
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Was there absolutely no way to repair the suspected damage? Like meet up with the ISS?

I remember someone from NASA saying that their only option would've been to rush another shuttle (Endeavor, I think) into prep for launch carrying equipment for repairs. That, of course, was never really considered because it would've likely jeopardized 7 more astronauts, and would've taken at least a few months. The Columbia crew didn't have the supplies for that timeframe.

I also don't think NASA knew the extent of the damage to Columbia. They were aware that a piece broke off during launch, but had no way of finding out what happened.

In the end, I think it was just better they didn't know. They were already in the mindset that there's a chance something could go wrong, and I'm sure they said goodbye to their families with that in mind.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 9:32 pm to
The Columbia was the only shuttle that didn't have docking capability with the ISS and they didn't have a contingency plan in place to send a 2nd shuttle or repair damages to the heat shielding.
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