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re: The average car is now 12.5 years old and the interest
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:06 am to LSUfan4444
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:06 am to LSUfan4444
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Dude, this is a generational issue not just an administration problem
Sure. Keep thinking that
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:06 am to Kingpenm3
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Chevrolet Colorado's are $40k!! And then they keep their value like crazy. No real deals on used ones unless they are packed with miles.
At this exact moment, the Chevy Colorado/GMC Canyon, the Honda Ridgeline, and the Nissan Frontier are probably the most reliable mid sized trucks you can buy. They aren't horribly priced if you can be careful with options, but they just don't have many discounts either.
A previous generation Tacoma without the turbo motor, that is probably a very safe bet from a reliability standpoint. Those are usually pretty bulletproof, but the new ones have had some embarrassing issues. Not as bad as the Tundra so far, but Toyota's reputation has definitely taken a hit.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 9:07 am
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:07 am to LSUfan4444
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Dude, this is a generational issue not just an administration problem
In about 54 or so years we went from a nation where a single blue collar salary was not only sufficient to raise a family but also look forward to a comfortable retirement and a vacation every year. We went to it taking 2 salaries and then 2 salaries and a mountain of debt. It is now far more important to be able to buy a 3 pack of Tee Shirts made in Bangladesh of Indian cotton for $10 instead of the same 3 pack of shirts made in West Point Georgia from cotton grown in Mississippi for $14. That $4 is nice but the true cost is faaarrrrr more than that. Not only have we seen where this leads we are no convinced that paying $6 for a Big Mac instead of $4.50 due to an increase in production costs related to labor is just too much to take. A heaping pile of our financial angst and worry stems from within...we are all in on saving on cheap foreign imports but god forbid our neighbor earn a living.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:08 am to Geauxld Finger
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about to buy a 9 year old truck for 10k.
Where did you find it? Not specifically… but a dealer, FB marketplace, parking lot ?
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 9:09 am
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:08 am to JohnnyKilroy
2002 Z71. 335,000 miles. It ain’t pretty but I haven’t had a truck payment since 2003 (different truck that my wife totaled right after paying it off)
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:08 am to frequent flyer
Remember cash for "clunkers"?
When they destroyed a bunch of older vehicles to give people what amounted to a pittance to buy new vehicles?
And so now all those older vehicles are out of the market (or were just resold in Mexico/ s. America.)
Wait a minute...I see vehicles being hauled with lN TOW tape on them all the time, I'm guessing down to Mexico, where they are fixed.
How much does it cost to buy a vehicle in Mexico and bring it back here?
When they destroyed a bunch of older vehicles to give people what amounted to a pittance to buy new vehicles?
And so now all those older vehicles are out of the market (or were just resold in Mexico/ s. America.)
Wait a minute...I see vehicles being hauled with lN TOW tape on them all the time, I'm guessing down to Mexico, where they are fixed.
How much does it cost to buy a vehicle in Mexico and bring it back here?
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:08 am to bleedsgarnet
2014 Ford Focus-162k. I commute 70 miles / day. I plan to buy used and pass my focus to kids for their first car.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:08 am to 4x4tiger
2014 GMC SIerra 3500. 97,000 miles. The last truck I ever buy unless I hit the lottery.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:11 am to fallguy_1978
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My truck is 7 years old, and I hope to get another 7 out of it. They just aren't worth what they cost now to me.
Way cheaper to rebuild. Crazy, but facts.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:13 am to bleedsgarnet
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The average car is now 12.5 years old and the interest
mine is exactly 12.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:14 am to bleedsgarnet
Things I look for in a vehicle:
- reliability
- leather seats
- AWD
- Apple CarPlay
- at least decent fuel efficiency
- back seat adults can sit in
- trunk my golf clubs can fit in
- not objectively ugly
Things I like, but not required:
- heated and air conditioned seats
Things I don't want:
- stupid technology that will just break and render parts of the car nonoperational. I hate the big ipad screens, give me buttons and a screen just big enough for Apple CarPlay to be useful.
Things I don't give a shite about:
- everything else
- car being new
Find me a car!
- reliability
- leather seats
- AWD
- Apple CarPlay
- at least decent fuel efficiency
- back seat adults can sit in
- trunk my golf clubs can fit in
- not objectively ugly
Things I like, but not required:
- heated and air conditioned seats
Things I don't want:
- stupid technology that will just break and render parts of the car nonoperational. I hate the big ipad screens, give me buttons and a screen just big enough for Apple CarPlay to be useful.
Things I don't give a shite about:
- everything else
- car being new
Find me a car!
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:16 am to Geauxld Finger
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I’m about to buy a 9 year old truck for 10k. It’s got 90k miles but it’s in great shape. I don’t need all the modern bullshite that comes with newer models. I’ll probably keep it for 5+ years or until repairing it costs more than it’s worth
Bought a 2011 last year for $9500 out the door.
Engine is in great shape. Everything works, and I paid cash.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:18 am to AwgustaDawg
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In about 54 or so years we went from a nation where a single blue collar salary was not only sufficient to raise a family but also look forward to a comfortable retirement and a vacation every year. We went to it taking 2 salaries and then 2 salaries and a mountain of debt. It is now far more important to be able to buy a 3 pack of Tee Shirts made in Bangladesh of Indian cotton for $10 instead of the same 3 pack of shirts made in West Point Georgia from cotton grown in Mississippi for $14. That $4 is nice but the true cost is faaarrrrr more than that. Not only have we seen where this leads we are no convinced that paying $6 for a Big Mac instead of $4.50 due to an increase in production costs related to labor is just too much to take. A heaping pile of our financial angst and worry stems from within...we are all in on saving on cheap foreign imports but god forbid our neighbor earn a living.
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No no no no no. This started with Biden.
I know this cause I read the OT
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:19 am to 4x4tiger
Bought a 2018 Ram back last year on a fair deal (got it for 23k with 45k miles on it) And I will be driving that truck until the wheels fall off, it’s just a tradesman so doesn’t have all the fancy new gadgets which is what I like.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:20 am to LSUfan4444
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No no no no no. This started with Biden.
Pretty amazing under W, Obama, and Trump I was able to secure much better financing rates for new vehicles while at the same time having worse credit than I do now.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:22 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Everyone keeps saying “_____” is not sustainable.
It is as long as people are fine living in debt and working until they die.
but what do we do to change it? Seriously I need help as much as the next
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:22 am to Auburn80
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For me it’s just a way to get from point A to point B.
When I was younger, I always thought if I worked my way into a strong salary I would buy a nice vehicle for myself.
Now I have zero interest in doing that. I make a good living and drive a paid off POS. The prices are outlandish. So is the insurance (thanks Gordon et al), and a lot of the features aren’t necessary.
My wife has a 3 year old nice SUV, but it’s only because our other one was totaled during Covid hysteria. Those were weird times to look for a used vehicle.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 9:26 am
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:25 am to bleedsgarnet
At least modern vehicles last longer and are more efficient. You were lucky to get 100,000 miles out of a vehicle back before the 80's, but then again, vehicles didn't cost what they do now. The average price of a vehicle in 1975 was $4800, that's $27,000 in today's money, the average price of a vehicle today is $47,000. a $20,000 mark up since then.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:25 am to LNCHBOX
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much better financing rates
Haven’t we been bitching about how 15 years of low rates have come to frick us?
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:26 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Haven’t we been bitching about how 15 years of low rates have come to frick us?
Have "we?"
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