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re: Texas teen faces life for selling pot brownies
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:56 am to Gladius Veritas
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:56 am to Gladius Veritas
quote:
such a bad argument
How so? Did he not have a choice whether to break the law or not?
Obviously a life sentence is too extreme but he should get punished because it was against the law.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 11:58 am
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:59 am to biglego
quote:
Well you should care that this is happening in a "free" society and tax dollars are being used to turn him into a felon which will severely limit his ability to live a productive life, and the fact that plenty people do in fact go to jail for pot crimes.
Turn him into a felon? There is a law. He broke it.
I'm for legalization. Drug rights are proxies for freedom, I get it. But drugs aren't important. They're not arms, they're not speech, they're simply symbolic for liberty and crucial to a pretty worthless contingent of America.
So yeah, I'll put this one at the end of a long list of shite that matters.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:03 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
Turn him into a felon? There is a law. He broke it.
Its a law that turns a non violent seller of a fairly harmless natural substance into a felon. It creates a criminal where one doesn't really exist.
I get that using pot isn't on the level of basic civil rights to most people, but I disagree. Change "using pot" to "engaging in a private recreational activity that affects nobody else" and it becomes the right to be left alone by the government
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:07 pm to bdevill
NYPost;dr
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:22 pm to Henry Jones Jr
quote:
Obviously a life sentence is too extreme
That's what I'm saying. I agree he should get punished, but a life sentence is way, way too harsh. Whoever I quoted seemed to think that whatever punishment the kid got he deserved because "if you don't break the law then you won't have to answer for anything", which is a terrible argument. Just because he chose to break a law doesn't mean he deserves life.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:23 pm to Gladius Veritas
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That's what I'm saying. I agree he should get punished, but a life sentence is way, way too harsh. Whoever I quoted seemed to think that whatever punishment the kid got he deserved because "if you don't break the law then you won't have to answer for anything", which is a terrible argument. Just because he chose to break a law doesn't mean he deserves life.
And he won't get life, or anything close to it.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:23 pm to crimsonsaint
quote:
It's the hash oil.
yeah, idiot feds calling it "the new meth" because of its explosive properties.
the next chapter in the failed war on drugs begins.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:33 pm to bdevill
Got exactly what he deserved.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:36 pm to McLemore
quote:
Nice troll job.
Wasn't a troll.
Sure I have done some of those things, and if caught I expect to be punished according to the law.
If you want to argue to change the law that is fine, but don't break the law and then whine and bitch when you get caught.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:37 pm to SG_Geaux
quote:Seems like the appropriate time to whine and bitch.
don't break the law and then whine and bitch when you get caught
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:37 pm to bdevill
25.00 a pop, throw the book at him, greedy frick.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:45 pm to biglego
quote:
and it becomes the right to be left alone by the government
Legit argument. But irrelevant considering there is a known law, an individual broke it and now the prosecutors are offering a plea bargain that involves no jail time for breaking said law.
This isn't a difficult situation. Take the deal, then if it matters to you THAT much, get involved (legally) in the process of making pot legal.
I think I should be able to drive 90 Mph on the interstate. That doesn't meant I'm exempt from penalty under the law.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:46 pm to bdevill
I don't understand this...
Possession of marijuana in the State of Texas is a Class A misdemeanor. From the looks of it, they have no solid evidence to prove anything other than possession.
Also, how can they give higher penalties for hash oil? At the end of the day it's marijuana, which by itself is a CI, the highest level of control they can put on a drug. If they're going to prosecute one marijuana case as a felony just because it's in concentrate, they have to do so with all marijuana cases.
quote:
Hash oil is a controlled substance that carries much harsher state penalties than marijuana. The oil has higher concentrations of THC. It’s in a penalty group with amphetamines and ecstasy.
Possession of marijuana in the State of Texas is a Class A misdemeanor. From the looks of it, they have no solid evidence to prove anything other than possession.
Also, how can they give higher penalties for hash oil? At the end of the day it's marijuana, which by itself is a CI, the highest level of control they can put on a drug. If they're going to prosecute one marijuana case as a felony just because it's in concentrate, they have to do so with all marijuana cases.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:52 pm to Henry Jones Jr
quote:
Obviously a life sentence is too extreme but he should get punished because it was against the law.
The "law" is a fricking farce. Just because something is a law doesn't make it right. If George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and all our other Founding Fathers had felt the same way as you this country would not exist.
"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - TJ
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:55 pm to SG_Geaux
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I don't care. Don't break the law and you won't have issues.
What a horrible and honestly frightening philosophy. This nation has had unjust laws throughout its entire history that eventually get taken out of commission, such as adults being kept in bondage as property. I suppose nobody should have cared about those slaves because the law dictated they are property and who is to question that kind of authority?
Yeah, this dude is in some hot water because he did break the law, but to be apathetic when an unjust law gives out unjust penalties just because "the law is the law" is not a mindset that should ever be encouraged.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:59 pm to dcrews
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Legit argument. But irrelevant considering there is a known law, an individual broke it and now the prosecutors are offering a plea bargain that involves no jail time for breaking said law.
This isn't a difficult situation. Take the deal, then if it matters to you THAT much, get involved (legally) in the process of making pot legal.
Who gives a frick if the plea is for no prison time, he still becomes a CONVICTED FELON! Do you have even the slightest idea what that means!?
If I were him and the DA offered 5 years and I wouldn't be a convicted felon or no jail time and I become a felon... I'd take the 5 years.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:00 pm to Corkfather
quote:Seriously?
If I were him and the DA offered 5 years and I wouldn't be a convicted felon or no jail time and I become a felon... I'd take the 5 years.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:01 pm to boom roasted
Yes, seriously.
Do you know anyone that's a convicted felon or has been dishonorably discharged from the military? How's shite going for them since?
Do you know anyone that's a convicted felon or has been dishonorably discharged from the military? How's shite going for them since?
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:03 pm to Corkfather
quote:Yes.
Do you know anyone that's a convicted felon or has been dishonorably discharged from the military?
quote:They own a business and are doing just fine.
How's shite going for them since?
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