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Texas Bar To Pay $3M Bc Drunk Patron Killed 3 In Wreck
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:46 am
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:46 am
What's the OT think about this. I don't see how its the bars responsibility whether this guy called an uber or drove home. Are bars now supposed to have someone make sure all drunks get a ride home? Also how is the bar liable for the negligent actions of a bartender? I get the owner hired him/her but wow thats pretty drastic. Obviously they probably have insurance to cover such a thing, but wow.
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:47 am to dabigfella
This is not anything new, and I don't see it ever changing.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:49 am to dabigfella
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Are bars now supposed to have someone make sure all drunks get a ride home?
Technically, they are supposed to cut off anyone they suspect of having too many.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:49 am to RollDatRoll
Malicious lawsuits in this country are out of hand. I dealt with one bc a storm knocked a tree over onto a car on a commercial property I owned. Someone decided to ride out a storm by sitting in their car on my property and a tree fell on it. I didn't lose, but plenty of money was wasted going to court over the matter. I just think as tragic as this matter was, ruining the bar owners lives was not necessary, if anything go after the bartenders serving the man that night.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:50 am to dabigfella
I think it was a settlement
which means that a jury couldve gone either way with it but obviously the bar/insurance company lawyers thought 3 mil was a good deal
after all:
if its a law on the books, then clearly the citizens of texas are okay with it
which means that a jury couldve gone either way with it but obviously the bar/insurance company lawyers thought 3 mil was a good deal
after all:
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According to Texas' Alcoholic Beverage Code, bars are open to lawsuit if they serve someone alcohol who is "obviously intoxicated to the extent that he presented a clear danger to himself and others," and the drinker goes on to cause damage, personal injury or death while intoxicated.
if its a law on the books, then clearly the citizens of texas are okay with it
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:50 am to dabigfella
Pretty sure bars in Louisiana can't be held liable like this unless the patron was under 21. Texas evidently doesn't follow that.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:51 am to Clyde Tipton
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Technically, they are supposed to cut off anyone they suspect of having too many.
The problem with this and you know it is alcohol hits you later. You can sit at a bar and take 6 vodka shots and be fine and leave and 30 minutes later get in a wreck bc you suddenly get the effect.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:52 am to Clyde Tipton
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Technically, they are supposed to cut off anyone they suspect of having too many.
That's much different than this.
Someone could have 2 drinks and be over the legal driving limit, yet seem totally fine.
That shouldn't be on the bartender IMO.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:52 am to REG861
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bars in Louisiana
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In Louisiana, the consumption of alcohol is considered the cause of any
injury – not the state or service of alcohol. No licensee, employee or social
host is held liable for damages caused by an intoxicated guest who is 21
years old or older. However, any person who causes or contributes to
forcing someone one to consume alcohol, or falsely represents that a
beverage is non-alcoholic, is fully liable.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:52 am to dabigfella
Why would anyone own a bar?
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:52 am to dabigfella
personal responsibility does not exist in this country.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:52 am to dabigfella
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if anything go after the bartenders serving the man that night.
im sure they did go after him as well but if there arent repercussions for the employer as well, then there is no reason for the employer to rein in their employees when it comes to these violations
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:53 am to dabigfella
Hell yea, make that money trial lawyer brethren!
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:54 am to Ash Williams
ash, but do you agree one could be fine at the bar and then the alcohol hits him a while later? I know it happens to me all the time when I have too much to drink and don't realize it till later. Im just saying why is the bar responsible whether the man drives or ubers home. So you can get shitefaced all you want and uber home and its no issue right?
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:54 am to dabigfella
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The problem with this and you know it is alcohol hits you later. You can sit at a bar and take 6 vodka shots and be fine and leave and 30 minutes later get in a wreck bc you suddenly get the effect
No one takes 6 shots of vodka then walks out the bar directly after throwing the last one back
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:54 am to Clyde Tipton
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Technically, they are supposed to cut off anyone they suspect of having too many.
Yeah, but what if this dude is sitting at a table and his friend keeps coming up and buying pitchers or shots. The bartenders might not have even directly interacted with this customer.
Just in theory, I have no idea, although it would likely all be on camera.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:54 am to dabigfella
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The problem with this and you know it is alcohol hits you later. You can sit at a bar and take 6 vodka shots and be fine and leave and 30 minutes later get in a wreck bc you suddenly get the effect.
agreed, but if you read the article it says the people had been there for 6 hours and consumed large quantities of alcohol
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:55 am to dabigfella
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ash, but do you agree one could be fine at the bar and then the alcohol hits him a while later? I know it happens to me all the time when I have too much to drink and don't realize it till later. Im just saying why is the bar responsible whether the man drives or ubers home. So you can get shitefaced all you want and uber home and its no issue right?
absolutely
but the article said they had been drinking for over 6 hours, so that argument clearly wasnt there for the bar to make
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:55 am to dabigfella
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how is the bar liable for the negligent actions of a bartender
aren't they liable for negligent actions of bouncers? I disagree with the bar being held responsible
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:56 am to dabigfella
So bars are supposed to cut off anyone who is drunk and possibly over the legal limit? Ridiculous. Everything is someone else's fault nowadays. Sickening.
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