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Tax Spinoff: The UK has a TV license fee

Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:07 am
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20386 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:07 am
I didn’t believe this when I first heard it. I wouldn’t be surprised if the government doesn’t try this in the future.

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You need a TV Licence to watch or record programmes on a TV, computer or other device as they're broadcast, and to watch on-demand BBC programmes on iPlayer


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A TV Licence costs £159 (£53.50 for black and white TV sets) for both homes and businesses.




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This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 5:17 am
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
12739 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:11 am to
Bloody hell
Posted by WhuckFistle
Member since Jul 2015
3008 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:22 am to
They still have black and white tvs?
Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
1858 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:26 am to
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A TV Licence costs £159 (£53.50 for black and white TV sets) for both homes and businesses.




Try that in a small town.
Posted by bleuman
England
Member since Sep 2009
8830 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:39 am to
It funds the BBC, which is not limited to radio, tv, streaming, news, etc... Keeps commercials low and such.

It is pretty annoying since we pay for cable and all that, but I understand the original premise. If you have ANY tv in your house or watch any online streaming (YouTube/Netflix) even if you don't watch anything at all from BBC, you're still required to pay. That is stupid. If someone doesn't want to listen/watch/read anything at all from the BBC, why should they have to fund it?
Posted by bleuman
England
Member since Sep 2009
8830 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:39 am to
also, yes, BBC is very hard to read and not have a giggle.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4142 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:13 am to
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They still have black and white tvs?




I've tried many times to explain everywhere else sucks lol
Posted by chris44gwlsu
Berlin, Germany
Member since Jan 2008
1165 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:15 am to
You pay something similar in Germany. I've lived in Berlin for 5 years. I recently learned this the hard way. I had to pay a back payment of 792 euros! I love living here but all my mistakes seem to cost soo much

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How Much Is The Radio Tax In Germany?
The radio and TV tax in Germany is 18,36 euros a month per household, regardless of how many people live in it. It gets collected per quarter so that you will pay 55,08 euros four times a year. The price was increased last in August 2021.

Is It Mandatory To Pay ARD ZDF?
Yes, it is. Every household in Germany must pay the Rundfunkbeitrag since 2013 unless you fall under one of the below categories that allows an exception. It is irrelevant whether you actually consume the German public broadcasting services or not.


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Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7457 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:18 am to
We already have something similar to this if you subscribe to cable except that it is driven by market forces and local TV stations.

Broadcast fees have become ridiculous in the age of cable trying to stay competitive with the streaming of virtual cable systems like YouTube TV.

One thing that I found out is that the networks are getting the money directly from the virtual cable systems bypassing the traditional model where the local TV station would typically get the local retransmission fees from the traditional cable operators and then pay the networks any fees in reverse compensation.

Here is a little backstory from my reading of trade publications on the history of how local network TV makes money.

The traditional model for broadcast Television was that networks paid local stations to become members of its network. The local TV stations would also get so many minutes per hour for local advertising or promotion.

Then in the 1980’s or 90’s a law was changed or added that TV stations could choose to either force a cable operator to carry your broadcast TV signal called Must Carry or a station could collect a negotiated retransmission fee from cable operators, called Retransmission Consent. Most TV stations chose the retransmission fee. This why every few years we get the same song and dance that ABC Cable is dropping WXYZ, and call ABC Cable to continue carrying WXYZ. It is also because most contracts are 3 year deals or when a station changes ownership which has been plentiful lately.

Once the networks realized how much was coming in via retransmission fees, they gradually lowered network compensation to carry network programming. Some networks even started charging TV stations to carry network programming as costs increased due to new sports contracts and increased entertainment costs. Also, network advertising income has diminished due to lower ratings and less people watch traditional TV.

Some stations put themselves in this position as stations traded affiliations like baseball cards and station ownership groups including network owned and operated station groups grew in size. This led some stations fearful of losing a strong network affiliation to offer the network to carry it for free or the station would offer to pay the network to carry it.

Another factor affecting TV is that audience size is diminishing fast. A few days ago, one trade publication said that broadcast TV had its lowest viewership night in TV history.

With streaming now, the only way for broadcasters to compete is with live sports content, but even that is available via streaming from the network or leagues undercutting the local TV station.

Also, as the Hollywood strikes continue leaving little scripted programming available to the networks, that only increases their reliance on sports, game shows, and reality programming.

Sorry for the length, I didn’t think I was writing a draft term paper this morning.
This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 6:31 am
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5058 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:49 am to
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Keeps commercials low and such.


Easily the best thing about the BBC, only breaks are between shows and the adverts are for upcoming shows. Don't need to be offered blue pills that will change my sex life for 5 minutes every 15 minutes
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10578 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:52 am to
I'd imagine it's broken up over a year into payments as part of their bill.

Entergy by comparison charges you $500 a year for a Storm Restoration fee. A fee for them to recoup their losses as a part of providing you service.

That's a way bigger issue than this IMO.

Your cable bill is already chocked full of other fees.
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
11548 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:55 am to
Posted by SonicAndBareKnuckles
Member since Jun 2018
1596 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 7:00 am to
Oi! You got a loicense for this thread?

Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65746 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 7:03 am to
The UK is no Shangri-La but folks generally follow the rules there better than US our culture that leads us to be more independent. Independence is wonderful when talking in the first person, but it’s not so good when manifested by your next-door neighbor being a Sovereign Nation whacko who collects hundreds of used lawnmowers in his yard.

That’s a conceptual explanation of why UK folks almost universally pay the UK license fee without much griping.

tl/dr: They generally play by the rules more better than do we.
Posted by farad
St George
Member since Dec 2013
9690 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 7:07 am to
Beatles wrote this in 1966...they were being taxed at 90% back then...

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Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, 19 for me
'Cause I'm the taxman
Yeah, I'm the taxman
Should five percent appear too small
Be thankful, I don't take it all
'Cause I'm the taxman
Yeah, I'm the taxman
If you drive a car, car (I'll tax the street)
If you try to sit, sit (I'll tax your seat)
If you get too cold, cold (I'll tax the heat)
If you take a walk, walk (I'll tax your feet)
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11881 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 7:07 am to
Welcome to 1946.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36407 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 7:13 am to




Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27262 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 7:15 am to
I’m guessing you can’t transfer the license to a new set.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68695 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:00 am to
One of the things that shocked me there was they dont even get all the soccer games on tv yet i can watch all of them here.

Posted by junkyard1
TTown
Member since Nov 2022
55 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:25 am to
I could see them red coats possibly having a TV party in the harbor in the near future.
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