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Suicide attempt thread sparked a question in my head
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:44 am
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:44 am
Let me preface this by saying I believe Owlfan86 eloquently responded to the original post, and I hope to achieve the same.
My 31 year old sister(who lives off of my parents) started doing crack. She has been stealing from my parents for years, but within the past year it got severe. She "sold" three of my parents' vehicles for either money or drugs, and told my parents that she had a friend doing repairs to them.
My sister would tell my mother she was out working(cleaning houses, even though she wouldn't help straighten up our parents' home) while she was out prostituting for drugs or money.
She lost all four of her children, the older two to their father, the younger two to their paternal grandmother, and was ordered to have no contact with her children.
This past weekend, my brother and I informed her it was time for her and her boyfriend to move out of our parents' home. We did the best we could at the time to ensure that they can't sneak back into the house, as they had rigged a few windows so that were they put out they could reenter.
So, after hearing and seeing the results of everything she had been doing, to herself and my parents, I don't care what happens to her. If she decided to kill herself I would not care.
My mother still feels as though she should be helping my sister. My brother and I feel that if our parents have anything else to do with our sister(or especially they let her move back in,) we will be forced to sever ties with our parents for the sake of our own families.
So, the question I have is this: If a person feels they are a detriment to society, and can in no way be a productive or contributing member of society, are we wrong to force them to receive help? Should we let a person that feels like that commit suicide?
My 31 year old sister(who lives off of my parents) started doing crack. She has been stealing from my parents for years, but within the past year it got severe. She "sold" three of my parents' vehicles for either money or drugs, and told my parents that she had a friend doing repairs to them.
My sister would tell my mother she was out working(cleaning houses, even though she wouldn't help straighten up our parents' home) while she was out prostituting for drugs or money.
She lost all four of her children, the older two to their father, the younger two to their paternal grandmother, and was ordered to have no contact with her children.
This past weekend, my brother and I informed her it was time for her and her boyfriend to move out of our parents' home. We did the best we could at the time to ensure that they can't sneak back into the house, as they had rigged a few windows so that were they put out they could reenter.
So, after hearing and seeing the results of everything she had been doing, to herself and my parents, I don't care what happens to her. If she decided to kill herself I would not care.
My mother still feels as though she should be helping my sister. My brother and I feel that if our parents have anything else to do with our sister(or especially they let her move back in,) we will be forced to sever ties with our parents for the sake of our own families.
So, the question I have is this: If a person feels they are a detriment to society, and can in no way be a productive or contributing member of society, are we wrong to force them to receive help? Should we let a person that feels like that commit suicide?
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:46 am to Azranod
Have you called the cops? Grand theft auto?
Plant a shite ton of crack on her so they will lock her up for dealing?
Plant a shite ton of crack on her so they will lock her up for dealing?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:46 am to BingWaterTiger
quote:
yes
Pretty much, yes
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:47 am to Azranod
It's often extremely difficult, if not impossible, to halt the self-destruction of destructive people.
In a similar situation I think I'd likely mourn the loss of a sibling while not being terribly shy about it ending a pattern of damage to the lives of many other people.
In a similar situation I think I'd likely mourn the loss of a sibling while not being terribly shy about it ending a pattern of damage to the lives of many other people.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:48 am to Azranod
If they refuse help and in no way has any interest in quitting what they are doing then yes.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:48 am to Cosmo
quote:
Have you called the cops? Grand theft auto?
I have talked with the cops several times, and am always told that my parents must make the reports or file charges, as it is their property.
My Dad says he has filed the reports, but I believe my mother is always talking him down.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:56 am to Azranod
So without knowing your life story how'd your sister end of so fricked up and you and your brother contributing members of society?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:58 am to Azranod
I've been totally wasted and wished for death before but glad I survived. When a person is not in a normal state it's not ok to just let them be. They need help no matter what.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:03 am to Azranod
This reads like an episode of Intervention.
Sorry to hear you have a fricked up sister.
I have a brother that was pretty bad off. He would steal from my parents and shite like that. He ruined a few family holidays. Then 1 year I told my mom we weren't coming home for the holidays because of the shite he pulled. She told me not to worry that he was in jail. He spent a year and half in the Bradshaw Correctional Facility in Texas and came out a much better person. He got out probably 9 years ago and has completely turned his life around. He found a good woman, married her, bought his own house and is doing great.
Like you, I had given up on him and just assumed I'd never see him again. So there is hope.
Sorry to hear you have a fricked up sister.
I have a brother that was pretty bad off. He would steal from my parents and shite like that. He ruined a few family holidays. Then 1 year I told my mom we weren't coming home for the holidays because of the shite he pulled. She told me not to worry that he was in jail. He spent a year and half in the Bradshaw Correctional Facility in Texas and came out a much better person. He got out probably 9 years ago and has completely turned his life around. He found a good woman, married her, bought his own house and is doing great.
Like you, I had given up on him and just assumed I'd never see him again. So there is hope.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:05 am to REB BEER
Come on, man. It's the OT. We have to have the pics before we can accurately respond.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:07 am to Emteein
quote:
So without knowing your life story how'd your sister end of so fricked up and you and your brother contributing members of society?
She had always received a fair amount of attention being the only female child of my Dad's family in the area. I believe she was accustomed to being the (female)center of attention, and when my brother and I each got married, bringing our wives into the mix, and then we both had daughters, it left her lacking the attention she was so accustomed to in her life.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 9:15 am
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:09 am to Azranod
Force them to get help , yes
No, on letting your sister to commit suicide.
Also, your mother is the enabler as long as your mother keeps this up nothing will change.
No, on letting your sister to commit suicide.
Also, your mother is the enabler as long as your mother keeps this up nothing will change.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 9:11 am
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:10 am to REB BEER
Like I posted earlier, I believe my Mom has been shielding her from jail, but I think you're right, it would probably help her in the end.
It's just hard convincing Mom of this.
It's just hard convincing Mom of this.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:12 am to SwampTrash
I don't keep pics of my sister, plus with her drug use and prostitution, I really don't think the OT would want any.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:14 am to Azranod
I'm guessing she was the youngest?
That's what happened to my younger brother, he was always the baby and never held to the same standard as my other brother and me.
That's what happened to my younger brother, he was always the baby and never held to the same standard as my other brother and me.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:16 am to rantfan
Well, you can't force her to bee receptive to help. You can talk her into rehab, but it very likely won't 'take' if she isn't completely desperate for help. She'll probably need to spend some time on the streets and get away from that boyfriend BY HER OWN DECISION before anything you do will do any good. Tell her about you and your brothers pulling your family away. Make her feel the loss. That's really all you can do at this point. You're parents are just fueling her addiction whether they know it or not. If you're interested, shoot me an email at supadave3@gmail and I can send you some videos that help explain all this from both her and your families perspective. I've had a lot of experience in this area both personal and seeing several others situations up close. She is probably at a point where she can't stop on her own. She needs help but it's not going to be easy on your parents to do whats needed.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 9:20 am
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:16 am to Azranod
Sounds like your mom is a big part of the problem. She'll probably let your sister back in the first time she asks. The best thing for you and your brother to do is to say it's us or her. Even if your mother chooses her i think your dad will convince her that choosing you and your brother is the right choice of action. Maybe then your sister will get locked up or something and she can rebound. Or she'll wind up dead in a ditch.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:17 am to Azranod
You can't help a drug addict, alcoholic, or any other addiction until they want help. They are they ones that have to make that choice.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:18 am to Azranod
Drug addiction is not the same thing as depression
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