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re: Stanford surgery residency chose 12 females and 1 male
Posted on 3/25/23 at 8:52 pm to 777Tiger
Posted on 3/25/23 at 8:52 pm to 777Tiger
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unfortunately that cancer has metastasized in this business as well, right now, to be hired as an airline pilot, it's more important to be of color or one of the "alphabets" than it is to be experienced and qualified
Yeah because that's not important or anything. What I really care about is who you like to have sex with or where your family was from 7 generations ago, not that you know how to fly the plane
Posted on 3/25/23 at 8:56 pm to 777Tiger
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777Tiger
I'd let you pilot a plane I'm in ANY time, as long as you have access to a couple of chilled Shiners.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:02 pm to LCA131
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as long as you have access to a couple of chilled Shiners.
I always keep them close at hand...just in case!
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:02 pm to LCA131
First time, actually. But it fit the situation.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:09 pm to Fububutsy
quote:frick off. The best doctors I’ve had are women.
I’ve got no shot with the females because they were hired for their color or vagina, not for their talent
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:12 pm to tigergirl10
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The best doctors I’ve had are women.
and that ties up a nurse because he has to be in the exam room because you're a dude
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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t will get worse as more meritocracy decreases.
This is NOT the reason why the US medical system is fricked.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:31 pm to AbitaFan08
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Do you have any proof or validity that those chosen were not worthy of their spots?
Okay. Let’s focus on just one variable: sex.
To make things easy and simple, let’s just say that the same number of men and women applied for general surgery and they were all equally qualified. (This would give the benefit of doubt to Stanford btw. I’m not trying to hide the actual statistics, I just don’t feel like looking them up)
Under these circumstances, without any bias, running a fair match, you’d expect a general surgery residency program to match 50% women and %50 men.
Of course, you’ll have some variation. Some programs will randomly match 60/40, others 30/70, and so and so forth.
The likelihood of matching women to 11/12 spots would be 12/4,096 or 0.29%.
That’s a zero and a decimal point in front of 29, in case you missed it.
Without digging into the statistics any further, 0.29% tells you it’s more likely that bias was involved than these results occurring randomly.
This indicates Stanford general surgery residency program ranked women preferentially and discriminated against men.
So, while I couldn’t say whether or not those that matched with Stanford gen surg are qualified/deserving, it’s more likely than not that other more deserving/qualified candidates were passed over just because they were born men. And that’s the real issue here.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:35 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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So, while I couldn’t say whether or not those that matched with Stanford gen surg are qualified/deserving, it’s more likely than not that other more deserving/qualified candidates were passed over just because they were born men. And that’s the real issue here.
So if we look at other residency groups and they are predominantly male, do we have the same issue?
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:39 pm to AbitaFan08
The new Stanford radiology class is entirely male and they took a lot of criticism in the replies.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:41 pm to Parallax
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The new Stanford radiology class is entirely male and they took a lot of criticism in the replies.
Funny, there wasn’t a thread about it on the OT with a bunch of outrage.
Which is kind of my point.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:46 pm to tigerskin
Honestly this make me want a white male doctor more than before. If you can still get into med school and your residency with all the deck stacked against, you are definitely smart enough to treat me.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:44 pm to AbitaFan08
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will raise him or her to strive for the best and know that sometimes things in the world are out of their control. So if they have to attend Columbia over Harvard, they will still find a way to be successful.
Supporting anything other than a meritocracy makes you a racist/sexist and a loser.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:48 pm to TBoy
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You are calling for affirmative action to get more males, and probably more white males into the cohort.
I’m calling for it to end because 1) yes, it’s unfair to some applicants, and 2) it creates a culture of assumed incompetence for people it’s supposed to benefit. It’s bad for everyone.
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You assume the supremacy of the white male in all things. That’s your problem, bitch.
Calm down. A random sample of qualified applicants would be highly unlikely to produce the residents in that picture. That’s my point.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 11:10 pm to AbitaFan08
Abita moves to the northeast for a couple years has his first clam chowder and lobster roll and all of a sudden hates men
Posted on 3/26/23 at 4:16 am to tigerskin
1. I would hate to be that dude, that sounds fricking miserable
2. Stanford didn’t chose those residents but rather for assigned them through the match process. However this would imply that they ranked very few white males competitively. Maybe white males got the bad vibes and ranked Stanford poorly.
3. 1/5 of female surgeons do not complete their surgery residency and end up dropping out. Good luck losing 2-3 residents from this class.
4. Female surgeons have the highest suicide rate of any profession in the US.
2. Stanford didn’t chose those residents but rather for assigned them through the match process. However this would imply that they ranked very few white males competitively. Maybe white males got the bad vibes and ranked Stanford poorly.
3. 1/5 of female surgeons do not complete their surgery residency and end up dropping out. Good luck losing 2-3 residents from this class.
4. Female surgeons have the highest suicide rate of any profession in the US.
Posted on 3/26/23 at 7:36 am to AbitaFan08
It appears radiology was also placing an emphasis on "diversity."
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 7:49 am
Posted on 3/26/23 at 7:38 am to tigerskin
It's obvious just based on numbers thay there are more black women surgeons than white males, it's science
Posted on 3/26/23 at 7:42 am to jrobic4
One of my granddaughters is considering becoming a physician, shes fortunate to be part Hispanic.
I explain this stuff to her and even she doesn't agree with it.
I explain this stuff to her and even she doesn't agree with it.
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