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re: St. George on track to collect signatures needed to be put on ballot

Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:20 pm to
Posted by Alleman
St. George
Member since Apr 2013
741 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:20 pm to
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I haven't signed yet. But I will if I can ever get my white arse up and over to wherever to sign it.


Call the St. George volunteers, they will bring a petition to you.
Posted by Lloyd Christmas
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
4283 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:31 pm to
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Go ahead, Lloyd, let's hear how keeping the status quo will somehow not sacrifice or kids' education so the numb nuts at the school board keep their pay checks. What's your big plan to fix the schools?


Yes, such an extreme case, if St George needed a new high school, that would be the most logical area for one to be in.

And yes, that is what everyone in Baton Rouge who opposes St. George is for, the status quo. You do you know that "St. George" votes for the school board too, and has the same voting power as everyone else. Sounds like if some people had issues, they should have paid attention to who they voted for.

I do not have an education background, but give me a few months and I can come up with something better than changing the name of the school board, which makes people magically start caring about public schools they haven't cared about in 40 years.

But maybe I am wrong, unicorns and rainbows for everyone!
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:36 pm to
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Yes it could. But those idiots in "St. George" think they can isolate themselves from the evil City of Baton Rouge.

Fact this they can't. And anything they do to damage EBR damages them in the process.

From what I've read, this.
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2455 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:38 pm to
OmG Lloyd, you really don't have a plan, do you? Your plan is to attack st George instead of thinking up a solution.

And the only ones that think your bright idea of a Lee Magnet High is a beacon of hope were Bernard and his boyfriend. Which one are you?
Posted by NickyT
Patty's Pub
Member since Jan 2007
8612 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:43 pm to
Did you really just omg?,you must mean bidness.
Posted by Lloyd Christmas
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
4283 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:46 pm to
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And the only ones that think your bright idea of a Lee Magnet High is a beacon of hope were Bernard and his boyfriend. Which one are you?


Wait, so now you think more magnet schools are a bad idea? EDIT: saw it was someone else proposing more magnets, I am assume now that you are toeing the St George party line that smarter kids should get the same education as everyone else

News Flash Huck, St. George doesn't have a plan either.

This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 11:49 pm
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2455 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:46 pm to
Gauntlet =thrown
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:48 pm to
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OmG Lloyd, you really don't have a plan, do you? Your plan is to attack st George instead of thinking up a solution.


St George doesn't have much of a solution either.

Just split the EBRPSS into 4 or 5 neighborhood districts, increase property tax millage 5% and call it a day.
Posted by NickyT
Patty's Pub
Member since Jan 2007
8612 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:51 pm to
Create independent school districts within the parish just like each county in Texas does. For those who exceed the failing isd they are put into magnet schools.
Posted by Lloyd Christmas
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
4283 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:58 pm to
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Create independent school districts within the parish just like each county in Texas does. For those who exceed the failing isd they are put into magnet schools.


Not against this at all. I am against the lies and deception that are being currently sold to St. George residents. Frankly, I am a bit disappointed so many buying into bullshite propaganda sold by a low-life like Lionel Rainey. Including a few friends and family of mine.
Posted by NickyT
Patty's Pub
Member since Jan 2007
8612 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:07 am to
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Not against this at all. I am against the lies and deception that are being currently sold to St. George residents. Frankly, I am a bit disappointed so many buying into bullshite propaganda sold by a low-life like Lionel Rainey. Including a few friends and family of mine.


I'm with you, I am against st George but also not a resident. I live in BR proper and I am afraid of the true tax burden St George will inquiry if they break away. Let's not act like this is all White Oak and Shenedoah tax paying residents they now incorporate the Burbank staring area.
Posted by NickyT
Patty's Pub
Member since Jan 2007
8612 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:13 am to
Side note I will take demco in st George over this entergy bs all day
Posted by Beast Incarnate
Member since Feb 2015
234 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 5:42 am to
We've been doing it this way for years, and it's not working. The schools are, for lack of a better word, despicable. It's embarrassing. Sometimes change is necessary in order for progress to occur. This is one of those times.


I'm registering to vote today, and then I'll be signing
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 5:46 am
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2455 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 6:08 am to
I love hearing about the lies of St George and how terrible Lionel is. What I love about it is those people spouting it as if they aren't aligned with scum like Kip, the city police & fire unions, Delgado and the rest. Lionel is one hired spokesman in a suit. Your goons are actually bad people with power.

Will my taxes go up? Probably. A lot of that was assured when Kip and the ilk illegally annexed the profit centers without regard for the surrounding areas there. Still, there are lots of folks that would choose higher taxes in a great neighborhood with better schools. They do it every day when they move from Baton Rouge to Zachary or central.
Posted by craig8sm
Member since Jan 2015
3371 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 6:52 am to
The fact of the matter is St. George will some day proceed, or people will continue to move out of EBR. Working people who are tired of having their taxes misused and being at the mercy of the robin hood politicians of EBR will force them out. They will be called racist and white flighters, (by people totally ignoring the fact that hard working people of all races are leaving) but in the end I suspect the better to go down together clan will win out. It'd be nice if I didn't have to send my kids to private school to get a safe, quality education, but it is what it is. In a few years they will be out, and assuming EBR is still on its downward spiral I'll be moving out also. Watching a city collapse on itself is much better from an outside looking in prospective.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36004 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:29 am to
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I'm with you, I am against st George but also not a resident. I live in BR proper and I am afraid of the true tax burden St George will inquiry if they break away. Let's not act like this is all White Oak and Shenedoah tax paying residents they now incorporate the Burbank staring area.


Isn't it ironic how the same group does a study and tells you that St. George will put the city of BR in financial straits, but then they do another study and tell us that St. George doesn't take in enough revenue to support itself.

The net result is BR folk get all riled up fearing the worst, and then after that St. George folk are warned that a separate city can't survive unless there are major tax increases.

The fact is the city is a means to an end, better schools. No one would be pushing so hard for a new city if the schools weren't so poor.

Woodlawn High the crown jewel of St. George has a declining enrollment now. The reason isn't because it's a poor facility, it's not in a bad area of the parish, but it's not a good school even though they try to up the standards with some magnet programs.

They said we needed to be more like Austin, Texas well guess what; Austin Texas is in a county with numerous ISDs that seem to work well. Why can't we too be like Austin, Texas?
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8432 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:48 am to
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Why can't we too be like Austin, Texas?
On average, Austin residents are much more well-educated, affluent, and liberal than that of BR. If you can devise a way to pull of that conversion, then I fully support your efforts!
Posted by ColeCoushCoush
Member since Aug 2014
497 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:57 am to
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Isn't it ironic how the same group does a study and tells you that St. George will put the city of BR in financial straits, but then they do another study and tell us that St. George doesn't take in enough revenue to support itself.


That's not ironic at all. Forming a new city and a new school district will cost a lot of money. The money that gets pulled out of the city parish will put Baton Rouge in a financial crisis, but it won't be enough to pay for everything that "St. George" will need. That's pretty simple actually. Taxes will have to be raised, new buildings built, and I'm sure Lionel Rainey will be right there to profit on some gold old no-bid government contracts, as is his way.

And as for your comment about Austin, TX. HA! The progressives in Austin would laugh at the backwards conservative movement that is St. George. What's ironic is that you're appealing to the liberal hippie capital of America as some kind of support for a conservative "let's all bitch about taxes" Louisiana movement.

But, there is legislation recently brought forth that would make it easier to start ISDs. And in fact, the creation of a new city doesn't not in anyway guarantee an ISD to begin with. So there are definitely other ways of addressing those issues.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 10:02 am
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:00 am to
Not to mention one study was done before the annexations.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8374 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:01 am to
Something certainly has to change. The way I see it is St. George is better than nothing at all. Nothing is what the Local Schools for Local Students people were told they'd get when it really got out of hand and led to a new city forming. But honestly I'll take the gamble of a new city over the current state of affairs especially with the way Kid, Delgado and the others responded to the whole movement.
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