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Spontaneous order is the coolest, most important phenomenon on earth
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:49 am
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:49 am
First, a quick explanation of what it is
See these fish? Biologists have now discovered that each fish in this school had absolutely no initial desire to "form" a school like that. It emerged randomly because the aggregate of individual decision making on the part of each of the hundreds or so fish in that school resulted in an end result which was no part of the intention. Each individual fish is in that group because the INDIVIDUAL FISHES each know that survival and benefit is maximized when sticking close to others.
See this flock of birds? None of the birds in this flock wanted that cool design to happen. Each of the thousand or so birds in this flock had absolutely no desire to produce that end result of an amazing looking design. Each of them individually knew that by flying close to other birds, survival and benefit is maximized.
But by far the coolest example of spontaneous order involves this unbelievably peculiar species. In the following picture, you see each individual member of this species going on its way, minding its own business, doing what it wants to do. And by doing just that, it created the most complex, the most efficient, and the most marvelous order the earth has ever seen. Believe it or not, the following order was not "designed" by anyone, nobody in this species specifically "wanted" this to happen, but it happened. It happened with nobody in this species ordering anyone around. No individual in this species commanded this. It is an accidental end result which was promoted by intentions that had no desire to bring about such a result. But each individual in this species interacting with, communicating with, and forming partnerships for mutual benefit gradually caused the emergence of this marvelous order. It is an accidental order, resulting from the unintended consequences of millions of individuals in this species doing what they want to do. It was not created, like a sculptor shaping a beautiful figure or an artist painting a forest scene, or an inventor tinkering with pipes and tubes. It emerged randomly, spontaneously, and without anyone actually specifically wanting it to.
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the emergence of various kinds of social orders from a combination of self-interested individuals who are not intentionally trying to create order through planning.
See these fish? Biologists have now discovered that each fish in this school had absolutely no initial desire to "form" a school like that. It emerged randomly because the aggregate of individual decision making on the part of each of the hundreds or so fish in that school resulted in an end result which was no part of the intention. Each individual fish is in that group because the INDIVIDUAL FISHES each know that survival and benefit is maximized when sticking close to others.
See this flock of birds? None of the birds in this flock wanted that cool design to happen. Each of the thousand or so birds in this flock had absolutely no desire to produce that end result of an amazing looking design. Each of them individually knew that by flying close to other birds, survival and benefit is maximized.
But by far the coolest example of spontaneous order involves this unbelievably peculiar species. In the following picture, you see each individual member of this species going on its way, minding its own business, doing what it wants to do. And by doing just that, it created the most complex, the most efficient, and the most marvelous order the earth has ever seen. Believe it or not, the following order was not "designed" by anyone, nobody in this species specifically "wanted" this to happen, but it happened. It happened with nobody in this species ordering anyone around. No individual in this species commanded this. It is an accidental end result which was promoted by intentions that had no desire to bring about such a result. But each individual in this species interacting with, communicating with, and forming partnerships for mutual benefit gradually caused the emergence of this marvelous order. It is an accidental order, resulting from the unintended consequences of millions of individuals in this species doing what they want to do. It was not created, like a sculptor shaping a beautiful figure or an artist painting a forest scene, or an inventor tinkering with pipes and tubes. It emerged randomly, spontaneously, and without anyone actually specifically wanting it to.
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 12:59 am
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:53 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
We have hover boards now which is pretty cool.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:55 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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hundred or so birds in this flock
Innumeracy much? That's obviously many thousands of birds.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:57 am to Ryan3232
quote:Funny you should mention that- the economy is an example of the phenomenon of spontaneous order, so indirectly your hover board is too.
We have hover boards now which is pretty cool.
The many materials that might have gone into it (metal, plastic, rubber, etc) were extracted and produced by people who had absolutely no "intention" of providing someone with a hoverboard.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:59 am to Spock's Eyebrow
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Innumeracy much?
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:01 am to Iosh
I initially chose another picture that was only that many. I had written the paragraph and when I changed the pic didn't bother to change the number.
Believe me, please.
Believe me, please.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:07 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Cool
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 1:09 am
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:11 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Believe me, please.
I do. It always cracks me up to see stuff like this in print, e.g. news articles, which presumably have editors. It's like "when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor" to me.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:22 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Can the order truly be labeled as spontaneous when it is the result of outside stimuli?
ETA: IMO, it cannot.
I'm sure my dreams will now be filled with innumerable bait balls of fish and endless murmurations of starlings.
ETA: IMO, it cannot.
I'm sure my dreams will now be filled with innumerable bait balls of fish and endless murmurations of starlings.
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 1:34 am
Posted on 11/18/15 at 1:25 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
The human version of this, group think, can be seen on the OT and the political board.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 3:44 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 11/18/15 at 3:52 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I was sure I was going to see a picture of JOHN CENA at the end.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 4:08 am to Alleycat9
Somebody needs to put down the bong.
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