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Spinoff from poor v rich: What's Cuba like today if no Castro and Guevara?

Posted on 6/25/16 at 3:41 pm
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2192 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 3:41 pm
Personally I think their education suffers greatly but other than that it'd be a better place.

Would it be a US Territory like Puerto Rico?
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 3:44 pm to
Tourist attraction.
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2192 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 3:48 pm to
It's been a tourist attraction even with Castro. Just not a tourist attraction for Americans
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39190 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 3:50 pm to
It was a major tourist destination before Castro. There were casinos, resorts, nice beaches, of course it was mostly controlled by the mob but it was still nice. They have a decent agriculture industry with sugar cane, coffee, and tropical fruits. Not sure if they oil in their waters but that's another possible source of income. It would be a much better place than today for sure.
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2192 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 3:52 pm to
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Not sure if they oil in their waters but that's another possible source of income.

I think there's like 3 offshore oil rigs
Posted by Mars duMorgue
Sunset Dist/SF
Member since Aug 2015
2816 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 3:58 pm to
Probably not too much different than the Dominican Republic, Honduras, Guatemala, Southern Mexico, etc: poor, corrupt, with narcotrafficking being one of the major industries.
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
11224 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:14 pm to
I think it would be a better Puerto Rico.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11192 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:21 pm to
One thing Cuba had going for it was a strong middle & upper-middle class. The sugar industry tanking before Castro & corruption was out of control. If the economy could have diversified & corruption reigned in, Cuba could have the strongest economy in Latin America.

What if the banking industry exploded in Cuba in the 60's & 70's instead of the Cayman Islands & Panama? Havana would be a cosmopolitan jewel, instead of a city stuck in a time warp.
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2192 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

One thing Cuba had going for it was a strong middle & upper-middle class.

Who do you think supported the Cuban Revolution? It was the middle class
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33077 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:34 pm to
What a bunch of retards
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2192 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:40 pm to
My father was just a kid during the revolution but our grandfather always said he never thought communism would be the end result. It was pushed as an anti-corruption revolution
Posted by wolfonthebayou
Member since Apr 2016
325 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:51 pm to
At the beginning of 1959 United States companies owned about 40 percent of the Cuban sugar lands—almost all the cattle ranches—90 percent of the mines and mineral concessions—80 percent of the utilities—practically all the oil industry—and supplied two-thirds of Cuba's imports.
—?John F. Kennedy

When we were done robbing them of everything it would just be another 3rd world country that resorts to drug profits. Look up United Fruit Company and Standard Fruit Company and you will figure out that it's not just Indians and Africans that we fricked over. Really punished these Latinos for generations. Oh, and wont let them in here. To nice.
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2192 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:57 pm to
I am very well aware of all of that. I grew hearing about all the wrong doings of the US. I grew up saying
quote:

Pioneros por el Comunismo, seremos como el Che
Every morning at school

Why not make Cuba a US territory?
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
175875 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:22 pm to
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Why not make Cuba a US territory?
its not quite that easy

for fun lets suppose Castro/Cuba had gone the way of PR

no Cuban missile crisis furthering the end of the cold war
Kruschev stays in power,
so no Brezhnev ? (who extending the cold war)
would Nam ever have happened ?
would Nixon attempt to normalize with China ?
would the Soviets have tried to pull something in Central America


Cuba was a huge turning point in world politics
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2192 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

its not quite that easy


I'm talking pre-Castro Cuba. Obviously Castro led Cuba was not going allow that to happen
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
175875 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

I'm talking pre-Castro Cuba. Obviously Castro led Cuba was not going allow that to happen
understood,
still making another independent country a territory or protectorate without it being a direct result of a recent war would be unlikely if not unprecedented

I cannot think of it happening ever at least not in modern times


maybe the OT will impress me
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93718 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:36 pm to
Casinos. Lots and lots of casinos. I really think it would put Vegas out of business.

Instead of in the middle of a fricking desert, they could be on a tropical island
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2192 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 5:39 pm to
What was the process to become a US state? How/why did Hawaii become a state? Cuba would have made more sense given the proximity to the mainland.
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