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re: Smart LED TV vs 4K Ultra Smart LED?

Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:12 am to
Posted by blueboxer1119
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:12 am to
I'm curious about this as well.

How much stuff is available in 4k?

The best picture I've seen is a big plasma, which aren't common anymore.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:17 am to
quote:

read this. Before you call anyone else a fricknut or a dumbass. 


Why all HDMI cables are the same -- Cnet 



The HDMI spec changes almost every year.

The cables you use and all equipment in the chain needs to be HDMI Spec 1.4a to properly support 4k video.

So no. Not just any HDMI cable will work.

It is quite a racket they have going.

quote:

As of the HDMI 1.4 specification, the following cable types are defined for HDMI in general:[114][115]

Standard HDMI Cable – up to 1080i and720p
Standard HDMI Cable with Ethernet

Automotive HDMI Cable

High Speed HDMI Cable – 1080p, 4K, 3Dand deep color

High Speed HDMI Cable with Ethernet



As long as it is the right HDMI spec the brand does not matter, but it has to be the right spec to support everything.
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 8:24 am
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:26 am to
Dont forget to buy the 4k plug in for the tv.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:39 am to
High Speed HDMI cables are $5.

The ones bamarep bought are > $50
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:40 am to
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The results at my house proved different. I had 4 different HDMI cables already (none of them really cheap), none of them were very clear. I went and bought one "rated" for 4K speed and the picture was clear as a bell.


They might have been standard HDMI cables
Posted by 632627
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:46 am to
I don't think its necessary to own a 4K tv now, but if you are in the market for a tv, it would be wise to consider 4K for the sake of future proofing.
Posted by Twenty 49
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Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:47 am to
4K content is available on Netflix (higher subscription price) and some other streaming providers.

CNET says to consider a 4K TV, despite the relative shortage of content at this time, because manufacturers put their best components in the 4K models.

quote:

In today's market TV makers reserve their best LCD TV picture quality enhancements--ones that actually make a significant visual difference--for 4K TVs.

In other words, the best LCD TVs just happen to be 4K TVs, but for reasons that have nothing to do with resolution.


LINK
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:40 am to
Actually, the one I bought was $19. I attributed the higher cost to the longer length.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9764 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:59 am to
Do not buy a 4k TV unless looking at upscaled 720p and 1080i/1080p doesn't bother you. Cable/satellite isn't even 1080p, and there's currently about 5-6 Netflix shows streaming at that resolution. Even when the inevitably add more shows how much Netflix do you watch? If not much, your only hope is UHD Blu Ray. You certainly won't be gaming at 4K.





Posted by Aristo
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:08 am to
4k is pointless if you do not have a 4k receiver.
Posted by CptRusty
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:14 am to
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4k is pointless if you do not have a 4k receiver.


Although true, you are ignoring the future-proofing buying 4k gives you.

I bought my last TV in 2007 when HD was just starting to become common place. Now, 8 years later, HD is the norm. I expect in another 3-4 years 4K content will be similarly ubiquitous and I'll have a TV that can handle it.

Besides it wasn't really that much of a price difference. I bought my 60" for $899. There's a 65" standard HD LED on best buy's website advertised for the same price. I mean, I'm a few inches shorter but much higher quality. Story of my life
Posted by Aristo
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:20 am to
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Although true, you are ignoring the future-proofing buying 4k gives you.


I bout a 4k tv last year when they first went on sale, the picture is great, but it does have some motion blur when it is up-scaling the picture. I cannot wait until 4k is the norm
Posted by Janky
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Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:40 am to
I am under the impression that Direct TV with the genie is 4K compatible.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:43 am to
I have a question about 4K and streaming Netflix, etc. Is this going to destroy bandwith across the country? Or do I not know what I'm talking about?

I'll hang up and listen. And hide for being a simpleton.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
89531 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:47 am to
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Is this going to destroy bandwith across the country?


There is just a ton of money being spent on the broadband network right now - with satellite competing with wireless and both competing with cable and DSL providers, customers tend to take the path of least resistance where they are.

Competition is a good thing. 4k will be introduced slowly and then expand - just like everything else. Early adopters will pay premiums which fund the availability for everyone else.
Posted by CptRusty
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:47 am to
quote:

have a question about 4K and streaming Netflix, etc. Is this going to destroy bandwith across the country?


I would guess that a 4k stream would require roughly 4x as much bandwidth. So does it require more? Yes. Is this increase in demand likely to outstrip the country's current and continually improving infrastructure? I doubt it.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
108743 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:55 am to
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Buy the best HDMI cable you can though, it makes a difference.


What would you recommend? I'm looking to spend $500 or less.
Posted by CptRusty
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Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:59 am to
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I'm looking to spend $500 or less.



Pssh, you must like looking at a bunch of artifacts and blur. You need nothing less than this:

LINK
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
167258 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:00 am to
Samsung UN48JU6400 48-Inch 4K TV with Home Theater Bundle W/Soundbar for $599


Is that just a really cheapest as they come 4K TV?
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
108743 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:04 am to
Not bad...

quote:

First the good:

My television is capable of displaying 480p, and I have a 2.1 surround sound system.

So you can imagine my astonishment after I plugged this into my system - and suddenly my television was rendering at 2160p, and I had full 7.1 surround!

Now the bad:

If you have an older HDMI-capable system, this cable is simply too fast. By which I mean that it transports electrons at a rate faster than your system can handle. This has a strange warping effect - and ends up showing you content from the future. A friend of mine got this on my recommendation, and ever since he connected it to his cable box and television, he has been receiving programming approximately 93 seconds ahead of the rest of the world.
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