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re: Shreveportians lose their minds over tree trimming
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:09 am to Rantavious
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:09 am to Rantavious
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Probably not a tree in that subdivision that wasn't planted by a homeowner.
Shreveport's Unfamed Founder
I'm not suggesting the current homeowners did it. I'm suggesting...
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By 1923, Broadmoor was being developed on the land once occupied by Peter Youree’s massive cotton plantation. Steere honored Youree by naming Broadmoor’s main roadway Youree Drive.
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Steere named Avery Street after his gardener, Leonard Avery. Avery was a black man who planted many of the trees throughout the South Highland neighborhood.
After the subdivisions had been platted.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 10:14 am
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:15 am to Clyde Tipton
quote:Avery did a damn good job.
Avery was a black man who planted many of the trees throughout the South Highland neighborhood.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:18 am to weadjust
I love an old oak as much as everyone, but what did you want them to do here? Their job is not looks, if they did it for looks they'd be back every 6 months. Utility trimmers have literally 1000s of miles to maintain.
To the guy that said underground, um do you not realize the root ball and base on those oaks? You can't have mature trees anywhere close to underground utilities and certainly can't move them underground with mature trees there.
To the guy that said underground, um do you not realize the root ball and base on those oaks? You can't have mature trees anywhere close to underground utilities and certainly can't move them underground with mature trees there.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:20 am to baldona
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Their job is not looks, if they did it for looks they'd be back every 6 months. Utility trimmers have literally 1000s of miles to maintain.
rural property is a bit different than residential streets
its a hack job and its pathetic
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:28 am to Salmon
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Shreveport is spending millions on replacing its old, crumbling sewer system they don't have the money to run utilities underground right now
Shouldn't you put the utilities underground while you have the street open to replace the sewer system?
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:28 am to baldona
Yeah I realize underground doesn't solve this problem particularly, but I'm just using this thread to comment on how much of an eye sore above ground power lines can be.
That being said, how do they control roots when lines are laid underground? Do they make you take down anything that tries to grow within X feet?
That being said, how do they control roots when lines are laid underground? Do they make you take down anything that tries to grow within X feet?
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:30 am to Clyde Tipton
This is riveting stuff. Great update from Shreveport
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 11:33 am
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:30 am to Clyde Tipton
quote:no we don't
Shreveportians lose their minds over tree trimming
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:31 am to Salmon
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the trees add value to the neighborhood as a whole
aesthetics? yes value? no
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:32 am to jorconalx
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aesthetics? yes value? no
aesthetic adds value
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:34 am to Clyde Tipton
sI would bet in some of those pics where you see the power lines in the yards and not in the little grass area on the street side of the sidewalk, it was the power lines that were moved. I believe when the subdivision was built the powerlines were right next to the streets. Either way, trees should not have been planted there. I grew up in Sunset Acres and every house had a laurel oak planted between the sideway and street.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:36 am to Salmon
we will have to agree to disagree.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:37 am to Salmon
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aesthetic adds value
Am I taking crazy pills? How is this even debatable. A residential property with stately live oaks or other types of preferable trees will sell for more than one without them.
Are people really going to argue that this property is as valuable without trees as it is with them?
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:38 am to slackster
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Am I taking crazy pills? How is this even debatable. A residential property with stately live oaks or other types of preferable trees will sell for more than one without them.
I have no idea
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:41 am to Salmon
I mean feel free to butcher every water oak in the neighborhood, but live oaks are famous for their ability to withstand hurricanes and whatnot. Trim them and they hardly drop a branch of any kind.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:42 am to slackster
I've lived here 7 years now and had maybe 2 power outages.
Neither were caused by limbs/trees.
Neither were caused by limbs/trees.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:52 am to Clyde Tipton
Idiots should value electricity over trees
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:54 am to slackster
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Are people really going to argue that this property is as valuable without trees as it is with them?
I am convinced that people on this thread are being deliberately obtuse.
Appraisal is done via comps.
The comps are more worthy the closer they are to the subject When searching for comps, you find houses that have sold that are around the same size and condition in the same neighborhood and then you make small adjustments for the differences, but primarily the work is just about finished when you have a collection of similar sized houses in similar shape in the same neighborhood as your subject.
A neighborhood with mature oaks will have higher values for ALL the houses in that neighborhood than a hypothetical exact same neighborhood that is treeless, because mature oaks have a huge positive aesthetic impact.
I wonder if people in this thread have ever sold a house? Landscaping makes an ENORMOUS difference. Well, a street of huge oak trees is in essence a landscaping feature that money can't even buy and install like grass or shrubs.
Given that ALL the comps in a neighborhood with mature oaks will benefit from the trees, THE VALUE IS BUILT INTO THE COMPS AND ISN'T SOMETHING YOU FIGURE SEPARATELY FOR UNLESS IT ISN'T THERE. An oak tree is not something that an appraiser line-item accounts for, because it is already accounted for in the comps he is using, which, because they are nearby, will all have oaks.
But, if all the oak trees in a neighborhood prized for its trees over other neighborhoods nearby which don't have tress suddenly lost its trees, the values would fall down to the level of those of the treeless nearby neighborhoods because that positive differentiation (the trees) would be gone. This would be reflected in selling prices, and thus in the comps used by appraisers to determine value, and as such, an appraiser STILL wouldn't be figuring the contributory value of the oak by itself because it would already be reflected in the comps he was using.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:56 am to slackster
I can take you to a very shitty part of town here and show you "Stately" live oaks. They aren't adding any value to that neighborhood
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:59 am to jorconalx
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They aren't adding any value to that neighborhood
They would if it started to gentrify. The presence of those trees would make it a target for gentrification over areas that didn't have them. See: the Heights in Houston.
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