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re: Should I/Should I not charge rent
Posted on 9/2/15 at 3:03 pm to Forkbeard3777
Posted on 9/2/15 at 3:03 pm to Forkbeard3777
I dont understand why you dont just speak with him and find out his plan. It sounds like you can trust him based on him being a great tenant. Just let him know a firm date for his shite to be out.
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Posted on 9/2/15 at 3:04 pm to Artie Rome
No reason to charge him if his shite isn't costing you rent money from someone else. Just tell him to get it out asap
Posted on 9/2/15 at 3:05 pm to Forkbeard3777
Charge by the day or they can forfeit the property. Its not like they are being evicted. They knew when their lease was up
Posted on 9/2/15 at 3:06 pm to bigberg2000
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dont understand why you dont just speak with him and find out his plan. It sounds like you can trust him based on him being a great tenant. Just let him know a firm date for his shite to be out.
I am doing that. I believe the lease allows a daily charge, but like I mentioned, I'm not sure. The agreements are at my house and they are all different from one another. I'm just wondering if it would be an a-hole move to charge someone roughly $120 to move the rest of their things out when in reality...it isn't that much stuff.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 3:06 pm to TheIndulger
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No reason to charge him if his shite isn't costing you rent money from someone else. Just tell him to get it out asap
That's what I'm leaning towards.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 3:07 pm to Tigerpaw123
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call and give him / her 24 hours to have all items removed and place cleaned or risk forfeiture of deposit
he's trying to figure out if he can swindle half a month's rent from a tenant who left shite in the apartment. I don't think he has any designs on returning a deposit.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 3:07 pm to Tiger in NY
quote:All you hardasses realize you would lose your arse in court if you did this right? The courts always side with tenants in situations like these, especially when the OP has not even lost any money over this issue. The correct answer is to call the tenant and tell him his stuff needs to be out, or you will charge him once it causes you to lose money
Either charge the daily rate or call a crew to throw away their crap and keep the deposit.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 3:16 pm to Forkbeard3777
Likely the stuff is abandoned.
First, change the locks.
Then, throw the stuff out on the street, hold the deposit for failure to return the property in a like condition as when it was leased out (reasonable wear and tear excepted).
First, change the locks.
Then, throw the stuff out on the street, hold the deposit for failure to return the property in a like condition as when it was leased out (reasonable wear and tear excepted).
Posted on 9/2/15 at 3:22 pm to Forkbeard3777
I have rental property and as long as someone isnt keeping me from doing needed repairs, painting, etc....I wouldn't charge them. But I would call them today and give them a deadline to get the stuff out and tell them I will charge them after that.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 3:38 pm to Forkbeard3777
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I'm conflicted as to whether I should or should not charge a daily rate?
you don't know and you are a landlord
Posted on 9/2/15 at 4:09 pm to Forkbeard3777
You're well within your rights to charge rent for those couple of days, but if it were me, I probably wouldn't unless/until I incurred damages (new tenant couldn't move in) or expenses (had to pay some folks to move their stuff out.
That's just me, and I don't think charging them rent should be considered a dick move.
That's just me, and I don't think charging them rent should be considered a dick move.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 4:17 pm to Forkbeard3777
I would not charge them rent.
I would contact them, if you can reach them by phone, tell them they have 24 hours to remove the rest of the stuff from the house, otherwise, it's going on the street and any cleaning/removal fees will be deducted from their deposit.
Just because you have the ability to be a turd, and just because half of the OT would gladly be a turd in this situation, doesn't mean you also have to be a turd.
I would contact them, if you can reach them by phone, tell them they have 24 hours to remove the rest of the stuff from the house, otherwise, it's going on the street and any cleaning/removal fees will be deducted from their deposit.
Just because you have the ability to be a turd, and just because half of the OT would gladly be a turd in this situation, doesn't mean you also have to be a turd.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 4:18 pm to 225bred
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Don't be a dick. Just give them a hardline date to have the rest of the stuff out or you will charge them a fee.
Isn't that what the end of the lease is?
OP -- do you have a stated rate in the lease contract?
Posted on 9/2/15 at 4:34 pm to Forkbeard3777
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Well, how was he tenant? Was he a good tenant? Never late on rent, no complaints about music, parking spaces, etc. other than the few items left over, was the apt clean? I
He was a great tenant...especially for a college student. He never asked to repair anything, always timely paid rent, kept the premises clean, the three other tenants in the sectioned house never complained, etc...
I mean, he could have the place cleared out within an hour...It isn't like an all-day move. That's why I'm conflicted. If it was a lot of shite (bed, bed frame, dishes, etc.) I'd feel less conflicted about charging.
With this, and with your other statement about how ow the previous tenant contacted the future tenant about some furniture, I would not charge him anything. Seems to me he's leaving that stuff for the new tenant. i would contact both tenants to find it exavlty what they discussed, and if it's the items that he left, then I wouldn't sweat him anymore on it.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 4:41 pm to Forkbeard3777
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the previous tenant has had contact with the new tenant about their move in date (I believe he was trying to see if the new tenant wanted the couch and some other small furnishings).
This changes things.
If the items are being left for the new tenant then the new tenant should be paying rent for moving in earlier than he told you. I understand that the tenants don't want to move stuff out, pay for a storage unit for a couple of weeks, and then move it right back. But they should pay you some consideration for that because you could have rented the property to someone else
So I'd call up the old tenant and explain that if the stuff isn't moved out by date x (before the new tenants move in) then you will move it out and sell on CL. If they say it's left for the new tenant then call the new tenant and explain that it is being thrown out unless they want to move up their move-in date.
ETA: To those people who think this is a dick move - yes, it's a dick move on the tenant's part to try to get a free half month of storage.
This post was edited on 9/2/15 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 9/2/15 at 4:51 pm to foshizzle
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yes, it's a dick move on the tenant's part to try to get a free half month of storage.
It's a dick move to sell someone's stuff on craigslist all in the name of being able to rent the place to someone else. Are you for real? The landlord here could have rented out the place for two weeks?
Let's put it this way -- is the landlord actually incurring some sort of cost to have that stuff in the place for 2 weeks? If not, then it would be a dick move (your term) to get all huffy, threaten to sell or throw away shite, etc, when it really doesn't matter to the landlord.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:00 pm to Forkbeard3777
if you know where they are and can contact them...you'd be within your rights to pro-rate the apt.
if they were decent tenants you may want to give them some grace.
but, did they contact you? likely no.
so, they likely don't want the stuff, and you could charge a refuse fee.
give them a chance, but likely they just abandoned the stuff.
and you most likely want some time to clean up etc, so you'll want it out by the 13th...allowing for them to not show up, and then toss the stuff yourself etc
if they were decent tenants you may want to give them some grace.
but, did they contact you? likely no.
so, they likely don't want the stuff, and you could charge a refuse fee.
give them a chance, but likely they just abandoned the stuff.
and you most likely want some time to clean up etc, so you'll want it out by the 13th...allowing for them to not show up, and then toss the stuff yourself etc
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:08 pm to Forkbeard3777
I wouldn't but, I'd probably suck as a landlord
Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:26 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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Let's put it this way -- is the landlord actually incurring some sort of cost to have that stuff in the place for 2 weeks?
I was hoping someone would take the bait.
Yes, the landlord is incurring quite a bit of cost. He is paying interest on a mortgage, property taxes and insurance. He pays this whether the property is being used or not, and is perfectly entitled to try to recoup some of that cost by charging for its use in any way he can. The storage cost might not be worth a huge amount but it is something. If the outgoing tenant left the stuff there for the incoming one, then the incoming tenant owes money for the privilege of doing so.
Here's another thought for you to chew over. Suppose tenant #2 paid tenant #1 for the stuff in question, say about $400. Now suppose there's a fire that destroys everything. Is the landlord liable for the damage? Even if not, tenant #2 might try to recoup it in small claims, and fighting even a slam-dunk winning case will require time and money so in practice the landlord will probably just pay the $400.
Suppose the extra stuff was piled carelessly in such a way that it *contributed* to a fire?
So yes - there are costs to having someone else's stuff at your place.
Posted on 9/2/15 at 7:34 pm to Team Vote
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if he wants the rest of his shite he needs to move it out by x or it's going on craigslist.
And then you get stuck with putting the items up on Craigslist, being in contact with potential buyers, and being there for them to pick up the items?
frick that.
Leaving furniture behind is lazy and selfish. Do the work and get it out of the place yourself. OP shouldn't try to charge him rent (he won't pay), but he should keep a portion of the deposit as a fee for the energy/time it will take to get rid of the stuff if the tenant doesn't come empty the place out. Obviously, give the dude a warning and deadline first.
It is one thing to leave a decent microwave or something. The person who lived in my place left an immaculate-condition microwave in the linen closet, and that happened to be the one item I didn't already own. But full fledged furniture is ridiculous.
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he might have just left it there to be thrown away.
Who does that? You don't just leave your shite for someone else to clean up. Moving a couch and shite out of an apartment SUCKS.
This post was edited on 9/2/15 at 7:39 pm
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