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re: Shooting at Orlando gay club: 50 Dead, 53 Injured, Shooter is Radical Muslim
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:47 am to LoveThatMoney
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:47 am to LoveThatMoney
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The more I look into it, the more it seems like this guy was fighting against his true nature as the result of a repressive religious compunction and parental pressure that ultimately boiled over into him killing a bunch of people who reminded him of who he really was and hated.
quote:Bingo.
The man hid beneath a veil of terrorism to hide his anger at himself. He projected that anger onto the world.
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:53 am to LoveThatMoney
Back in the day, when America was at war in the 1860s, if you were found to be an enemy of the country, you were charged with treason and shot. Typically would take place by the White House. Washington, during the Rev war, would kill American soldiers who tried to defect. It was more effective at curbing home grown terrorism.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:56 am to Winkface
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Bingo.
No bingo. Using fault tree analysis you will follow it all back to Sharia law. All of his feelings and actions can be traced right back to Sharia law.
If he and his old man followed our laws he could have come out of the closet.
What proves the connection? His claim of solidarity with the Boston bombers, his cries of Allah Akbar and his identification with ISIS.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:00 am to Redbone
All that validated his anger. It is not looking like the anger stemmed from the radical Islamic ideals but it did play a major part.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:00 am to AUCE05
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It was more effective at curbing home grown terrorism.
If not it at least gets rid of the perps cheaply.
Don't expect anything close to this. We've lost our balls .... literally when hiLIARy gets into office.
Anyone else believe a Monica replacement will be under her desk too?
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:02 am to Redbone
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He pledged allegiance to radical groups. His reason for doing so is un-important
His reasons for doing so are all-important . Determining the guy to be gay doesn't excuse his behavior. It merely examines one of the other issues inherent in the current state of Islam: homophobia and other similar stances it sets forth that are contrary to the modern Western World.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:05 am to Winkface
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the radical Islamic ideals but it did play a major part.
Without Sharia law none of this would have happened. It's the basis and it is the direct connection to Muslim extremism. You don't think there are so many more out there with repressed feelings? They are people just like us.
Timothy got no out because of any of his feelings. We know what was the root cause and that was the end of it.
You guys are letting the left spin this.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:08 am to Redbone
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It may be 50%, I didn't fact check, but the number is unbelievably high. The reason it's that high is because of ignorance. The reason for that ignorance lies squarely on the back of the liberal press
Stop. Quit blaming the phantom liberal press. The reason people are looking to ban guns is because it is a reasonable human reaction to the levels of gun violence in this country.
Your same nonsensical argument was made by Australians before their gun ban. Then their gun ban happened (brought about by their conservative party no less) and life has been hunky dory since. Mass killings have been relegated to family killings rather than public displays of violence. Suicide rates have plummeted. And no one there seems to care that they can't carry weapons around.
Which isn't to say we should do what Australia does, by only to illustrate that America is not the only nation to have wrestled with this and is not the only nation to have proffered a gun ban (or gun restrictions) as a solution to what is clearly a problem.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:10 am to LoveThatMoney
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Determining the guy to be gay doesn't excuse his behavior.
Ok! I didn't explain myself very well. His reason is based on Sharia law. If I'm understanding you correctly we are on the same page.
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homophobia and other similar stances it sets forth that are contrary to the modern Western World.
This is it. What he felt was based on this. Not our laws.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:12 am to Redbone
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You guys are letting the left spin this.
Your hatred for the "left" is horribly disconcerting and is illustrative of the problems we currently face in America and in American politics. Instead of digging into the facts more to suss out what happened, you are quick to blame the other side when your narrative isn't being supported. The same is true of the "left." They aren't any better about it. And this is why we'll have a Civil War in the next twenty years.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:16 am to LoveThatMoney
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Stop. Quit blaming the phantom liberal press.
Nope, can't do this. They are one sided on this. They openly attack pro-gunners on talk shows. I'll stop when they present ALL the facts and let the American people make an informed decision.
Unsure why you put the word "phantom" in there. That is a subject unto itself. In this case have you ever seen any of them give the anti-gunners a grilling?
Wish I could stay for more discussion. Gotta go.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:20 am to Redbone
Him being gay doesn't excuse the Islamic connections. At all. It would be the reason for his initial anger. There's a difference between him and the Paris or 9/11 terrorists. No one is giving him an out. It's a explanation. I think there needs to be more discussion about Islam and homosexuality. You won't hear it though.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:21 am to LoveThatMoney
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Your hatred for the "left"
Sorry if I hurt your feelings but my "hatred" is based on facts and the list goes back to over 60 years of experience. I was once a dem. I made an informed decision to change. I well remember the hippies. They run (ruined) the gov't.
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when your narrative isn't being supported.
Narrative well supported. Not enough server space for me to give you my well studied reasons.
By for now.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:23 am to Winkface
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There's a difference between him and the Paris or 9/11 terrorists.
There is no difference. Only their reasons for doing their dastardly deeds .... and, no, since you haven't proven your point I won't hear of it. No reason to "hear it". Sorry, if I did my homework.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:24 am to LoveThatMoney
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This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 12:03 am
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:25 am to Redbone
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Your hatred for the "left"
Sorry if I hurt your feelings but my "hatred" is based on facts and the list goes back to over 60 years of experience. I was once a dem. I made an informed decision to change. I well remember the hippies. They run (ruined) the gov't.
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when your narrative isn't being supported.
Narrative well supported. Not enough server space for me to give you my well studied reasons.
By for now.
See? It's this that shuts down conversation. Ad hominem attacks like this that serve no purpose other than to prop yourself up. It's rampant in politics. It is Trump's forte and made Cruz and Rubio political sideshows.
And fwiw, I'm not a part of the "left." I'm part of the silent majority moderates that's finally fed up with the state of our country. Probably too late.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:27 am to WallsAllAroundMe
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Agree! It's like allowing a person, currently being questioned by the FBI, run for president
I know. I honestly think she'll be the next president, but for how long I can't say. May be the first president to ever be impeached. She's slippery though. I hope she selects a decent fricking VP running mate.Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:36 am to Winkface
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This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 12:03 am
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:46 am to beauchristopher
Any person can pledge allegiance to ISIS, Hitler or the Southern Baptist. That doesn't mean he is actually associated with those organizations. Let's slow down and let this investigation play out.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 12:05 pm to LoveThatMoney
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It's this that shuts down conversation.
It didn't shut down conversation. I had to do a little work.
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prop yourself up
I can easily "prop myself up" My attack would be very long and would start with LBJ even though it started before that. It would have to end due to the book I'd be writing, with the man that stated that he wanted to "... fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” — Barack Obama, October 30, 2008, which he has undeniably accomplished. The left voted him in .... twice. The last one alone deserves my "hatred" because I see exactly what he meant. He changed it far to the left.
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I'm part of the silent majority moderates
Not so silent! The claim of "moderate" is usually interpreted as "Liberal". That is how they eventually side with when voting.
BTW, I' registered No Party. quote:
...finally fed up with the state of our country.
I've been fed up with it hence the claim of knowing what the "left" is and their lap dog press that fails to do their job.
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Probably too late.
The only disagreement here is I believe it is definitely too late. I have well founded reasons for this belief as well.
Too much silent majority has played a large roll in this situation.
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